I have a familiar mountain road nearby... Its been my best friend since I was 16, the olds, the supra, the civic...

Two times now, I have lost it due to very slightly abnormal road and visibility conditions. Both times I came damn near to killing myself, once my best freind was on board, and I would have never forgiven myself in this life or the next. By some weird miracle or freak occurence, nothing happened to me, him or the car on either occurence--the Man in charge, or whatever, definitely taught me a lesson. I never drive above 80% on any public road now. I save the 100% driving for autocross.

Whats weird, is I used to push the supra to its limits on that road... which was about twice as much speed on bad shocks and questionable tires, and never had a problem.... I guess the supra wasn't as prone to snap oversteer.