this thread has worn me out.
i know what im talking about. i dont like to go into great detail. ive been learning engines seriously since i was 9. i dont know everything, i probably dont know as much as you, but i do know a lot. my buddy is josh, the first moderator at hybridforum that knew everything about a honda. he was taught how to build engines from ralph shumacher, head engine builder for hendricks motorsport. josh has had 3 crx/civic's that ran quicker than 14's, his best runnin a high 12, note all these cars are n/a. in fact, his crx that he has right now, runs a mid 14 with the only after market peice being a hks dragger air filter. he just strengthened all of his factory valve train parts, and bench grinded his cam. he also read thru everyones anti-p&p posts and couldnt understand, just like i.

so lets get back to what this thread turned into-a port and polish haters haven. someone dropped a flow banch fact that a gsr head flows 310cfm's? well if it flows 310 cfm's from the factory, if you take the casting out, smooth it out, create less blockage, and reduce windage, wouldnt the head be able to flow more cfm's? i mean, to me its common sense. and to angle jobs. someone said a 3 angle is all a honda head needs. well, facts are facts, and a radius valve job flows the best, provides a better seat, and helps prevent carbon build up on the seat. and your valve guides are pressed in, and should have zero movementat any rpm. if your valve guides have movement, something was done wrong. to get valve guides out you have to heat the head in the over and press them out. in fact, a good head shop wont even touch valve guides if they are in good condition. i had to wheel and deal my guy to press them out. and about spring rates, ferrea makes 2 different dual valve springs-a street version, which goes for about 200 for the set, a comparable price to skunk2, jun, or crower. or they have a strip version which goes for 300, i have the latter.

price listing
jun valve spring&ti. retainers go for 389.00
toda egg-shaped valve springs sell for 360.00
crower valves go for 271.26 at crower.com
crower b series dual valve springs sell at 298.67
crower eibach dual springs sell for 355.25
crower ti retainers are 161.22
crower dual springs&ti retainers sell for 427.69
skunk2 valves with nitride coating go for around 360.00
skunk2 racing valve springs cost 281.32
skunk2 ti retainers sell for 160.00
ferrea valves cost 310.00 from raceeng.com
ferrea 7* valve locks cost 68.96
ferrea alu-mag ret.(lighter than ti for higher rpm's) cost 158.00
ferrea dual valve springs cost 289.72
ferrea valves guides cost 58.64
ferrea valve spring seat locators cost 50.00
so there you go, i have exact prices on most top quality valve train components. i dredged thru the internet for 2 months before i bought a single peice, so i could find the best possible price. i could have bought all honda oem peices for cost, or japanese oem peices for cost, but hey, spending a few extra bucks was worth it to me. the only downside to ferrea is the fact that you have to buy their locks (which lock better by the way, are cnc'd, heated, and nitride coated by the looks of them) and their seat locators for the valve springs (which is fine because they do prevent valve spring binding. i have a 2 page valve train price guide covering about 10 different web sites.

but everyone on this site is smarter than me, maybe ill just bow out because i dont have a leg to stand on when i open my mouth. sorry for the inconvenience all mighty honda builders who are against p&p'ing their head because it flows so well from the factory they think they should kiss mr. honda's ass for being lucky enough to buy a honda. sarcasm just ran a little thick, sorry.

ponder this for a moment, fit the throttle body from the 3.2tl to a civic type r intake manifold...the 3.2 throttle body is 80mm...that will help the engine breathe, no?