Would you like me to fax my title to you? I can negotiate very well, thank you. But to be honest, I didn't put an awful lot of work in to it. Just shoped around till I got the best price. Now, if I can still get 20 grand for the car, yipee!!! But I doubt that, since most of the 2000 Preludes I see around here go for 12,000-16,000. I think your logic on these car prices is a little skewed. We aren't talking about 1967 Shelby Cobras. BTW, you sound like you'd like to buy my ranch in Phoenix. There's 2.5 acres, and it all lies on the Pacific Ocean. Real cheap, too. I'll take 20 grand for it.