Well you know something, after looking at your picture that driver isn't going to fit in there.......I think I'm forgetting something here, wait a tick I am. Just like you forgot to cut the rest of the rain gaurd away. Know if you are going to show those pictures, that were quite nice by the way, make sure you have cut everything you should have. Just by looking at those pictures I can tell you why it doesn't fit. You didn't cut away the rest of the rain gaurd. You say that you've been installing for 8 years and you didn't see that? My guess is 8 months or 8 weeks but not years. Just because you have read about car audio and installs for 8 years doesn't mean you've been work with it for 8 years. I'm not doubt that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to car audio product, but we all have seen that you lack a little when it comes to installing.

There is nothing with civicland "attaks." This started out as a nice post with me just trying to help you out. But that all changed the second that you said you can't do that, when in fact I had. I would think that kind of reply would come from just a member and not a Mod like yourself.

SiClone - I understand what you are saying, but why don't you tell your Mod not to tell someone they are and I quote "Flat out wrong" before he does a little research in the matter. Just because someone is new to the site doesn't mean they are an idiot and I hope this topic has shown that.