Have you attended one of their courses - what about them is no bueno? I know a few folks who went to the free machine gun course back when they were offering that like, 10 years ago, but I didn't join them. I have a gift certificate for a 4 day course so I might as well go. I can find out for $0 whether it's any good or not. Plus, I'd rather not go much farther than Nevada (I prefer driveable locations - though driving across state lines with several firearms and car full of ammo might look kind of shady).