Yeah fuck you Creative and I mean it this time.
Went to update my music on my Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra and was having all kinds of issues getting the computer to recognize it or work with it. So I go to their website and update the software for it. Now it's been a long time since I hooked it up to a comp so I figured I should go ahead and run the firmware upgrade.
yeah not so good an idea, it wiped my existing OS out on the player and now it won't do anything but sit in recovery mode.

Thanks for your stellar updates there Creative.
So now I am DLing an ISO of the original software and hopefully it fixes the issue. This is my garage player when I am working out there so not a huge deal but I still like to be able to use it.