So after reading and being stubborn I finally took out the catalytic converter to pull out the rack like the book says, but there was this little piece welded on the frame to hold a rubber clamp to hold exhaust that was in my way "acura screw up! So like the sheet metal worker I am I cut with the sawz all ,lol yes and it came right out :loco: Just in case someone out there try replacing their rack and pinon I will post pic and a you tube video..:bowrofl: Now I'm stuck on the knuckle inside below the steering column!