Originally posted by wesleypipes1338
lets just take a look back and see your complete and utter misguided info.......come on, take my hand....
you want to hold my hand? :tfg:
removing the heat shield is not going to drastically heat up the engine bay, the shield is a thin ass piece of metal, that is their for what? mostly cosmetic reasons. if you can give me actual proof, that performance will suffer sooo greatly, enlighten us great one. how is a heat shield being removed going to slow down exhaust gasses? its not.
30 degrees minimum isn't a drastic change? the shield keeps the heat from radiating into the rest of the engine bay. it's not just there for aesthetics.
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duh! you need to buy a header to increase performance, b/c the factory unit is a piece of ish! 4-2-1 design or not, its plain garbage. its made for reliability, not performance, its a freakin accord. [b]
this one takes the cake. this just makes it that much more obvious that you know absolutely nothing and are ranting just to hear yourself rant. i wouldn't say that the stock manifold is made for reliability, but more for convenience. it's a lot cheaper to mass produce a chunk of cast iron than it is to produce stainless steel, or steel in general.
of course the "manifold" has alot of back pressure, the I.D. is soo small, and NO, they do not share the same primaries. the gasses would get all screwed up, and even more of it would get sucked back into the chamber. even if the primaries are the same length, you will still have back pressure, cars need a certain amount of it, you cant have zero back pressure.
teach us oh misguided one

cars do not need a certain amount of backpressure. whoever told you that has not a clue. it's true that you can't have zero backpressure, but that's only because you need at least a header or manifold to keep your exhaust valves from warping from heating and cooling quickly, not because the engine "needs" backpressure.
and what the he ll is this?? like i said before, there is alot of back pressure b/c it is stock, not b/c its a "manifold".
ignorance is bliss.....
nothing i havent said already, just shows your retarded.
if the truth hurts, its gonna hit you right in the face.
where did you say any of that? i think you're suffereing from delusions of grandeur chief. it's understandable that you're having trouble coming to terms with being a moron, but it seems that it's something you've been dealing with all your life. i'd think you'd have learned to deal with it by now.
this post actually makes some sense, but tell me, if i get my stock "manifold" honed, is it still a "manifold" or a header? it will be more free flowing!
boohoo, are those insults? so if your not ignorant or stupid wtf are you?!
well, i'm not ignorant or stupid, but i am correct. which is more than i can say for any of the feces you've spouted on this thread.
haha, so far its been fact?? yeah right

you talk ish about your hs days, arent you doing the same thing? sounds like it to me. i guess your the one with the problem.
well that about wraps it up, but.....
1. just what makes a exhaust manifold differ from a header? they start with four ports(yes blackmagic, four, not one), then depending on the design it goes to a collector, and combines into two pipes, then into one, or just right into one pipe. funny, they sure sound the same to me.
99accord-you sooo went into left field with that, no one in here (i think) is that stupid. turbo cars and n/a cars are different, we are speaking about n/a. dope.
so blackmagic, tell us if the truth is hurting yet.

wned: plain and simple.
first of all you've done nothing here but own yourself.
no ish they start with 4 ports... hey captain obvious.... funny how that works... it even matches up with the 4 cylinders that the engine has... what a coincidence. not once did i say they start with one port(if you could read you'd know this wes).
also, how was 99accord's statement out in left field? according to your logic a manifold and a header are the same thing right? now you change your argument because there's a turbo involved? it's the same principle, just a turbine thrown in the mix.yet more proof of your ineptitude.
what else you got for us wonderboy? it's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about so why are you wasting our time and attempting to corrupt those who don't know with your stupidity?