Ok guys not everyone is a dumb ass, just more so than not. If your do your research and not just in your import tuner or super street, get vechicle specific, aka honda tuning, d sport, etc, big body kits and wings slow you down, compare dyno charts, so you know what results your will see with what parts. SO i don't have a lot of posts on this crap of a forum, i am sorry for some reason i think real world hands on, and actually building and figureing out the bugs myself seems to be a lot more helpful than some guy with to much time on there hands to post thousands of threads, but hey thats just me its not like i am a technician or anything, or went to school for hypo and actually learned about how these systems work, versus taking some persons 2nd hand account, of what works on there cousins "Pimped out civic thats so fast that it runs 14's" Yes i am a smart ass, but i hate to see people screw the rides up because of being misinformed or mislead.