Originally Posted by
Mkazm83
This is getting pointless, you just keep repeating yourself. I've answered all your points while you just keep rephrasing yourself. The only points which you've answered are a not supported by anything other than "I've never seen it, I don't think, ect" Regarding the ATTS being "Better for many reasons", please list some. I'm quite curious. Could it be the PITA oil filter replacements? Could it be because the ATTS system goes haywire when improper size tires are used? And finally, just to leave the thread on a positive note, I leave you with two, count them, two Base Preludes with OEM kits. Together OMG.
BTW, not hating at all, just having a discussion.
I know it's getting pointless, so stop trying to make the base look better than the SH cause it's not... LOL
Your point about the LSD is completely pointless, as they do not come stock. Period.
So the ONLY way you could possibly get a base model to handle at least on par with the SH would be to completely upgrade the suspension and get an LSD. Then your ride goes to hell.
Next, the only way you can get the base to look as nice as the SH is to spend MORE money on a kit that has to be installed. Again, the SH comes from the factory with all of this, so why are you trying to downplay the SH body molding and make the kit look so much better? More money and more work, no thanks!
Name one thing that I re-phrased? I simply said I've never seen the kit on a prelude before. Sorry, but I guess no one has them here in SE PA...
For the weight advantage you tried to tell me that ONE pound on the wheels, and maybe an extra 100lbs IF THAT on the SH would cause the base to beat it EVERY time in a straight line race. Won't happen. The differences in weight are so small that driver error will win or lose the race, period.
Finally to address the ATTS system...
An LSD is a "band-aid" that helps to fix the problem of understeer.
ATTS uses the laws of physics and computer control to calculate the amount of EXTRA acceleration on the outside wheel that is needed to give the car a neutral handling balance, and carry the car through the curve.
Here are some things it has over the LSD...
1. Electronic control
2. Ability to transfer up to 80% of the torque to the OUTSIDE wheel
3. Will notify you of a problem with the wheels (low pressure, donut) before you cause an accident
It comes down to preference, but again you are trying to argue that an LSD equipped base Prelude is a better car than the SH.
There is no Prelude from the factory that has an LSD. So you're argument is pointless.
Again, SH >> Base, period.
Finally, I would just like to say I am so adamant about the SH being better because I have experience with getting "base" models and trying to make them better, and on par with the more expensive top of line models...
It is not the same.
I have a 93 Civic DX with B16/GSR swap, turbo, suspension, interior, wheels, basically everything... I will tell you from the door, I would rather have the EX model civic with the sunroof, and all the little things that make a top line model THAT much better. In this case the EX has everything from a sunroof to bigger, beefy-er sway bars.