Originally Posted by
98CoupeV6
but they're not obligated to give you the time of day, they can sell cars to whoever they please. they get tons of kids in every day looking for joy rides and they probably thought you were no different

plus the more you befriend the salesman the easier it tends to be to turn a good deal.
yeah that's very true.
As for facial hair, I think the apple2's had more pixels than i have hairs on my face; but a good suggestion.
98, have you driven a cts-v?