Oh ok! But I got my stuff frome good guys I took the old W3's in to get the W3V2's the old ones were brand spankin new, and still in the boxes! the dude just took a electrical cord pluged it into the wall and connectid it to the speakers! LMAO!!! Ever seen a subwoofer excurt like a half foot? Any way then he kicked down the new ones! cost me $60 for the renewal of the 5 year warinty!:fawk: