dude i'm not gonna seat here and put up another essay of how to go against what you guys been talking about. all i said was let him do/say whatever he wants, he doing to his car, is he doing it your car? you guys advised him, but he didn't listen. so now what r you gonna do? piss of just cause he didind't listen to you? let him do/say wtaever he wants, he will learn it eventually. many people learn things in many different way. and i gues he just the type of person who learn it the hard way. now shut the #$# up and chill #$#@ole