i thoguht 300 were slower then that....my bad. i wont be like everyone else saying i could mod a civic to run faster then that for less then 5 grand. i never said it would smoke it....just that it would be pretty darn close to a 300 zx performance wise. and isnt this is what this thread is all about? meaning civics arent THAT slow compared to "high performance" cars for the same price/year. yes stock wise.....but i dont think i could find a stock 93 civic for 5,000