Originally posted by jaje
particulate emissions cause cancer...is that a concern? (that's why i try to avoid following any diesel on the road)
Probably do, but gassers produce particulate matter (PM) too...is that a concern? Do you know of any studies that exhonerate gassers' cancer concerns?
First of all, both of my vehicles are diesels (one of which is a TDI), so I'll admit to a bias here. However, I have to challenge some of what I consider misconceptions about diesel emissions (I've been an environmental professional for over 20 years).
Point: Diesel emissions cause cancer.
Counterpoint: Assays of gasoline and diesel PM and semi-volatile organic compounds demonstrate that
gasoline emissions show a positive response in 5 of 6 categories of mutagenicity, DNA damage, chromasomal damage. Diesel emissions showed a positive response in 2 of 6 categories.
Source: In Vitro Genotoxicity of Gasoline and Diesel Engine Vehicle Exhaust Particulate and Semi-Volatile Organic Compound Materials
Presented at the 2002 DEER Conference
For cytotoxicity, high emitting
gasoline engines demonstrated a much higher response than even old, high emitting diesel engines. (That's why I try to avoid following old/poorly maintained GASSERS on the road!) "Normal" emitting gas and diesel engines exhibited essentially the same cytotoxicity.
Source:
COMPARATIVE TOXICITY OF COMBINED PARTICLE AND SEMI-VOLATILE ORGANIC FRACTIONS OF GASOLINE AND DIESEL EMISSIONS
Presented at the 2002 DEER Conference
Gasoline engines emit approximately
ONE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE more benzene (a
known carcinogen) than a comparable diesel engine (and this doesn't even take into account fugitive benzene emissions from gasoline fuel transfer).
Gasoline engines emit
numerically more PM and more polycyclic aromatic compounds (many of which are considered carcinogenic) than equivalent diesels under many real-world driving conditions.
Most harmful gaseous emissions were lower for diesel.
Source:
Environmental and Health Impact From Modern Cars
May 2002
Point: Diesels cause "smog".
Counterpoint: The ozone forming potential was considerably lower for diesel cars, i.e., roughly one order of magnitude lower than for petrol cars. This is mainly due to the low level of HC emissions for diesel cars compared to petrol cars. Should the evaporative emissions have been taken into account, the relative differences would have been even greater.
Source:
Environmental and Health Impact From Modern Cars
May 2002
Gasoline exhaust and gasoline vapor account for ~80 percent of ambient NMHC in on-road samples and at regional air monitoring locations suggesting that
gasoline emissions are responsible for the majority of ozone found in the SoCAB.
Source:
DOE’s Studies of Weekday/Weekend Ozone Pollution in Southern California
Presented at 2002 DEER Conference
Point: Fuel Cells are the most efficient energy converters known.
Counterpoint:
...the ranking between drive systems is (with one exception) the same independent of motor fuel type, namely:
-hybrid with diesel-engine
-hybrid with fuel cell
-direct operation with fuel cell
-hybrid with otto-engine
-conventional diesel-engine
-(hybrid with direct-methanol fuel cell)
-conventional otto-engine.
(This is taking the energy required for fuel production into account.)
Source:
Well-to-Wheel Efficiency For Alternative Fuels From Natural Gas or Biomass
October 2001
Which brings up one more point (or counterpoint): why are hybrids only mentioned with gas engines, as if diesels with hybrid drive trains are mutually exclusive? If a VW Lupo with a 1.2 liter TDI and a more or less
conventional transmission can achieve nearly 100 mpg (U.S.) in its "around the world in 80 days" tour, I contend that a
diesel hybrid Civic would get
significantly better fuel mileage than an equivalent gasoline-hybrid Civic!