thanks for the info, will check out that site! FYI, got a quote for a swap, 7th gen Accord V6, about $4500 dollars gets me engine, ecu, tranny, and about 25 more hp than what I think I have now. With bolt ons another 20-30hp for about 260 or so. I don't have time to research in detail at the moment, but look for a report here later.