I guess i liked the 04 rsx better than the 05 because for some reason the little bubble lights to me gave it some more curves than the 05. The headlights and on the 05 remind me too much of the civic headlights of the 01-03 models. Oh btw yeah my price range is under $20,000 so yeah the subby and rsx aren't gonna work unless they are used. Hopefully today i can go test drive the tc and civic si so i can compare them