hi, thanks guys..scanrps since u work at a dealer i have ?s for u on body repair and paint but that will be a later post.. i had originally changed the coil and the vss myself.. both gauges behaved about 1 week.. the transmission was replaced in jan, used thru a honda dealer only choices i had new $4500+ install or used $1300 installed not sure where it came from car was towed there.. any hoo the gauges behaved until may.. i changed the wires. plugs, cap and rotor, o2 sensor since i was there anyway the ignitor looked good. after $600 in parts and some tools i let the dealer have it. as stated above they couldnt find anything. they did say they checked the ground to the cluster not the plug and other sensors.. so im guessing the distributor innards where looked at.. i had looked at the ignitor and saw nothing.. it wasnt running very well and the car acted like it had a problem in the charging system. the starter was slow.. battery light flashes 3 or so times q morning. dealer said it was all minor..didnt say what they fixed. a valve adj helped some..was due.. but they spent 2 days looking for the gauge problem trying to get it to act up.. it finally did. they 'needed to find someone to test drive it'.. i told them no, just turn it on let it run, go eat or change some oil, read a mag, in about 10 mins or so itll start jumping. i had feared the distributor it was replaced in 01 with the tach jumping.. i have an aftermarket viper alarm and suspected a short or something. dealer found nothing so they guessed at the $1100. im a female so i guess we come across as easy pickins.. i will look at what u have posted thanks..