Originally Posted by mrksts
Desparate Houswives=stupid. 90+% of writers in Hollywood have no church affiliation. What would anyone expect besides overtly un-Christian, or for that matter, just morally devoid themes? Sadly, it even appeals to the dark side of those who'd consider themselves Christians, and that's why the stuff sells. Of couse, some self-proclaimed Christians have no idea what the word even means, but worse many are too lazy to care. I think that's one reason for the gap in the numbers; why 75% of the nation says, "I'm Christian", but why some of the things mentioned before exist in this country.
Here's an analogy: in a Muslim society, Muslim law pervades and controls all facets of society. The government aheres to the religious laws and enforces them. Thats a society defined by religion.
The United States is NOT defined by Christianity that way. There is a strong Christian culture alive and well in the United States, but we do not both live in a Christian society. Do you see the difference?
Originally Posted by mrksts
Abortion is a convoluted issue that not all agree on, but I think anyone with a little sanity would agree that it's a sad occasion when one happens. The fact is, most Americans agree on banning the extreme cases, such as "partial-birth", and after the 2nd trimester.
I do agree that abortion is sad. I also agree that there is a threshold after which it is not longer aborting a fetus as much as it is ending a human life. We can discuss it further, but if you want to, lets start a new thread.
Originally Posted by mrksts
I was being a little facetious, I thought you'd get a chuckle out of that. We are not born with the inherent knowledge that stealing or hurting another is wrong, but scream, kick and cry until someone teaches us differently. I'm sure you have had many influences and "teachers" who have taught you a moral code of sorts, even if not an official one. Where did they get their knowledge? Man didn't just wake up one day and have an epiphany. Granted, logic plays some role in this, but also conscience driven by ? plays a bigger one.
If you believe the new and old testament, humanity is what, 6,000 years old? I think that science has proven that there was a time that humans existed long before Judaism, and I must logically conclude that there was a time that humans existed before organized religion existed. Do you think that humans didn't know that indiscriminately killing one another was wrong before the ten commandments were etched?
Originally Posted by mrksts
I see you're quoting Jesus. He does have tremendous influence on society doesn't He?
You're going to have a hard time proving to me that Jesus was the first person to come up with "treat others the way you'd like to be treated."
Originally Posted by mrksts
If you guys want call America "Judeo-Christian", then fine. Christianity has its roots in the Jewish faith. I won't lose sleep over that.
America is not exclusively Judeo-Christian.