Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Sure, but the amount of preaching in here by the conservative contingent amounts to a collective cry for abolishment.
The biggest problem with social programs is the potential for people to plunge themselves further and further into debt in spite of those programs. Maybe if it were tied into their credit ratings more, that would help. But then you have businesses which specialize in high risk credit. As long as there's a buck to be made off of one demographic or another, companies are going to do what they can to make that buck.
If you have some sort of improvement in mind, us utopian-society-wanting liberals are more than willing to hear about it.
Mike,
Here is my original rant. I do not think welfare should be abolished, there is a definate need for it in our society. I do however think our current form of it is wrong and needs to be overhauled and laid out some very high-level ideas for what needs to be done.
Originally Posted by DVPGSR
What I am going to post is from my own experiences with people on welfare and in noway am I using it to represent the welfare system as a whole. The points of view in this post are my own based upon my own observations and conversations with people being supported by the state.
The welfare program sucks! The way we go about implementing it does nothing but breed more welfare recipients. Welfare breeds welfare. If you do not work and apply for welfare you get a check every month and can live in section 8 housing. Both of these are paid for by the government...so it is your's and my tax dollars hard at work. If you are on welfare and want a bigger check, have a kid. Do you want more money? Have another kid. Do you want even more money? Have another kid! The people that receive this welfare and live in section 8 housing have nothing to take pride in. There is no job, there is no house to take care of, nothing. Why do you think poor neighborhoods are always run down? Because the people who own the buildings do not care about them and they get their money from the state every month and the people that live there do not care because nothing is theirs.
But what about their kids. Often times a mother has children with multiple fathers, most of the time the fathers are either dead, in jail, or no longer around. The children grow up in welfare doing what needs to be done to survive. They see their favorite rappers and ball players driving around in big SUVs with 20" chrome rims talking about being tough and think that is the life they are to live. These kids do not care about school because noone makes them care. They deal drugs and steal for extra money so they can go to the local store for a new pair of Enyce jeans, or they just kill or rob someone for it. (It has happened hear before) Then these kids start having kids and the whole cycle starts all over and before you know it you have third and fourth generation welfare recipients who know nothing but welfare.
This is the cycle that needs to be broken. Throwing more money or government programs at the situation does nothing to help it because the core of the problem remains the same. You can give a man meat and fish and he can feed his family once, but teach him to hunt and fish and he can feed his family forever. This is where we need to be. Welfare needs to be restructured so that people can own their own homes so they have something tangible to take pride in and take care of. They need to be given the skills necessary so they can get their own jobs to support their own families. They need to learn and cherish the value of an education so that their children will embrace it in order to get a better job and break the cycle of welfare breeding welfare.
OK end of my morning rant.