ok then you got a :chuckles: outta me. I told people before in other threads that im not looking for ultimate power and im not looking to get high 13's and 14's i just want to be able to beat that ricer next to me with the altezzas and more stickers then a nascar event and a body kit that makes him look like a piece off of tetris and a wing that looked like it came from moby dick himself. :chuckles: I use to have a 04 Cavalier LS that yields 140 HP and i was contempt with that. I had the acceleration i loved and i ate a few accords up at the same time.