Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
That is right it is not black and white. That is why there will be kinks in the system.
So when you see kinks, you're not suppose to iron them out?
Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
That is why Cat Stevens is on the list. It is not proven whether or not he knowingly gave money to Hamas. If he did he deserves to be on there. Better safe than sorry.
Isn't it innocent until proven guilty? By the same logic I could end up the list cause I know people who are muslim. You do know at airports you are filtered through different check points depending on your last name. If your name is Muhammed you'll be seeing a different level of security, then Mr. Smith will. See having to deal with going through more security that's one thing, having to prove you're a United States citizen when you get pulled for a broken taillight, yeah not fair in my book. That means because I know a Mr. Muhammed who is muslim, I may get on this list. Okay yeah, that's fair

And better safe than sorry? Jeez man, do you choose not to see the other side of the picture? I'd sure as hell love to see how you'd react if any of your civil liberties are lost.
Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
You may not be able to prove it is catching terrorists but you sure as hell cannot prove it is not catching terrorists. Show me how many attacks we have had on our own soil since 9/11. Case in Point.

You know what, if something is taking away the rights of the people, it sure as hell better be able to prove it's effective. I'm surprised you are so accepting of laws that take away civil liberties. Reading your reply, you've said, yeah take away my civil liberties "better safe then sorry", and even if they don't prove to be effective, I'm still cool with that.
You need to take a step back and look at the whole picture.