So what are you saying, I should get a Civic...? J/K I thought about it, but it seems like everyone has a Civic these days (not that that's bad, they are very good cars) I just want something that not a lot of people have, that is one reason I would rather get the Prelude than the GSR. Tiptronic sucks I would never get that, especially in a Prelude, I have been looking at classifieds around here for Preludes and almost all of the ones for sale are Tiptronic. Which makes me wonder, Why get a sports car if your gonna get automatic, seems kind of pointless to me.