Originally Posted by kenton

Who are you telling to stop pretending?? I didn't say "Do a neutral drop", revving in N allows the brake pressure to build up, i.e. allowing you to push the brake in further, thus allowing you to do a stronger torque brake, giving you a (seemingly?) better launch.

While it is true you will upshift slower, my optimal shift point is NOT 5800RPM. I keep making power until fuel cut off, so that's where I feel like shifting. If I keep it in D3 and just punch the **** out of it, it's going to shift anywhere between 5800-6000, I've still got another 500-700RPMs before fuel cut off.

There were a few months back in the day when I thought I was true F&F riding around in a damn Honda Accord, those days are gone but I can only provide the experience I gained while tearing up my transmission.