The nav adds quite a bit of weight and plus i can or at least i claim to be able to read maps well. Anyway, i drove the TSX today and it was AWSOME. You can definitly tell the engine is not as powerful, but in the turns, it would probably leave the accord. Like someone said earlier, im not dragging this thing so straight line 1/4 isnt a huge priority. What is a priority is that the interior is so choice. Anyway, my entire experience was hampered by a salesman that was a total dick, which kinda sucks, but I still think im going to get the TSX. I got this guy to 26k which isnt much off MSRP, but like i said he was being an a$$ the whole time so i dont know. I realize its a pretty rare car with only 15k being sent to the US, but am i getting taken out back and beaten like a red-headed stepchild at 26k? Thanks for everyones input!