on a different note, arguing for arguing sake will get us no where. I have spoken my mind and said all that i feel fit for the situation. No hard feelings george. I am very impressed with how most of us handle this arguement and no one got out of control or overly angry. We, for the most part, discussed this in a timely manner and were able to say what was on all our minds. I didn't not before respect the mod/aminds of this board, but that has changed. Arguements from both sides were well formed.