Originally Posted by ZigenBallz
Key word is Trying... No mention of succeeding or failing...
I'm a bit disappointed in the reactions from the mods and admins but whatever... If you like having weak tech like SHO and the attitude to match that's fine... I'll stick to other more tech oriented boards from now on...and you yourself made a personal attack Mr. Admin in the breath right before telling me that it is not allowed... hippocritical? You be the judge...
All I said was you were wrong. I didn't attack you. And I still say you were 1/2 wrong. There was no name calling and I am not implying you don't know what you are doing all the time or are unintelligent in anyway. please don't put words in my mouth.
Originally Posted by ZigenBallz
But before doing so I'd like to point out a couple of things... the original post.
Has anyone who is giving me attitude actually done any chip tuning?
and is there any mention anywhere in the original post about generic ebay type chips? Or was that an assumption on other members parts? There are quite a few other methods of tuning Roms other than the band aid Vafc/Safc and the overpriced Hondata... and the fact that those are the only methods mentioned shows that some people need to do a little more research on what's available out there...
I've done plenty of Tuning. How would you like me to prove this to you? I suspect we would agree on a lot of things. No need for a chip on your shoulder we can all discuss this and not completely agree.
Hondata might not be cheap but it does WAY more than any chip alone will do. I don't understand why you have it out for them? Does a plain chipped ECU datalog? Can you control nitrous? Will it allow you to tune for boost on a 3Bar Map sesnor? Can it control VTEC based on vacuum as well as throttle position and oil pressure?
I'm not saying chipping alone can't do some of those things but I am saying that chipping alone won't do everything and won't do some of it as well.
By the time you buy a ROM emulator at $180 and a Chip Burner at $180 you are in $360. You can buy a Hondata S200 for $295 retail. You can buy the features you need if any and you are still going to have to pay a tuner regardless of system if you don't have the software, emulator, burner and know how. It isn't fair to expect all of these people will have the knowledge to tune their cars alone so that is a price consideration to take into account.
The Hondata does cost more than plain old chip burning but plain old chip burning isn't practical for the average Joe and sometimes isn't as effective. Try and help them with info without shoving your preferences down their throat. I have a stand alone on my car and I don't have a Hondata on my car (but I do own one) but I have used one and tuned several and they work great. I am sure your methods work great too but that doesn't mean using a VAFC is wrong it just means their are lots of options.