Originally Posted by darkpreludevtir
Ok, so you chose not to get my point, thats fine...
I never mentioned 800rpm, for a start. I completely understand that the high(er) lift, long duration profile on the "High" cam lobe in the VTEC set-up will give you terrible performance at low revs and may even give you nice flames out the exhaust....
My question is rather whether the "High" cam is so extreme... Would it really harm output in the MIDRANGE?
Contrary to your statement, there is actually 3 cam lobes per valve in the H22A1, it is the three-stage VTEC engine. Thankyou for your "lesson", and by the way, if you're going to be condescending, learn to spell kindergarten.
he was right about the 2 cams per engine, there are 3 lobes per 2 valves, but the theory behind VTEC is that you can have "2 different types" of camshafts in the head at one time. A normal profile cam, and a racing profile cam. The engine would idle erractically and under-perform overall if the high cam was used all the time
the point is to add performance when needed, and allow for driveability and emissions at the same time.
as far as the VTEC controller goes...you will want to get one that also allows for minor adjustments of the fuel/ignition curves. otherwise it could do more harm then good, by creating an excessively lean situation at a lower cross-over point. remember that honda uses MAP to determine air entering the engine, not MAF, so by opening the VTEC earlier the computer cannot enrich fuel enough on its own, since its measuring pressure and not actual airflow like a MAF sensor.
anyway, whoever said that opening VTEC sooner (creating a leaner condition) will cause flames at the muffler is wrong. flames out the tailpipe are categorized by an excessively rich running engine.
ie. when a high boost turbocharged motor spits flame on a shift, the blowoff valve is releasing a ton of air (boost) into the atmosphere, that air was already metered by the MAF sensor (a good amount of turbo cars have a MAF instead of a MAP), so the engine thinks its getting more air then it really is.
the result: an excessively rich situation, because the engine still thinks that X amount of air needs X amount of fuel to prevent detonation and make good power.
the popular example is the WRX which uses a MAP (like honda). this allows boost to be vented to the atmosphere since its sampling the intake air charge in the plenum or throttle body, after the BOV.
i would personally recommend the VAFC-II, its more functional in a small way over the VAFC-I, plus it changes color when VTEC engages, and of course its newer.
either way MAP or MAF, both have their shortcomings and strongs.
~boom