what gen eclipse do you have? the stock fwds get overlooked b/c they don't have the potential that the awd turbos do

being a turbo and n/a driver you also have to seperate those cars out as they are completely different animals...honda makes great n/a engines

as for saying the rsx and prelude have no torque is nonsense...they have enough down low torque to get the car moving...rsx being only ~2800lbs and a 2.0 and the lude vtecs being only ~2,900lbs and a 2.2 liter makes them pretty quick...the celica i will agree that down low there's not much going on...but it is only 2,500lbs stock so that helps mitigate its peaky engine