Originally posted by Nathan1234
God, you are stupid (and nice spelling and sentence formation, I must say). I get almost 30 mpg on the highway. THIRTY. That's pretty close to a B18C5 engine, except for having almost 3 times the torque, over 3 times the displacement, and about 1.8 times the power. And my car runs 12's with only an airbox lid. If that's not technology, what is?
News flash for you two domestic haters:
Variable valve timing is 70's technology.
LS1 has nothing in common with a chevy 350 besides having 8 cylinders and OHV layout (it isn't even 350 ci), and it was designed from scratch for the 1997 C5 vette.
Ford's modular V8 is an overall newer design than a B series honda I4.
Can't anyone debate this stuff without throwing their ignorant opinions ('dumbestics are usng 1950's enjins and they don't have no tecknoligy' )?
im not a domestic hater, im actually looking at buying a 91 camaro for a few bucks and buildin up a 350 with a 383 stroker for it (my friend is doing this to his car right now), and then adding that to my collection.
im slowly getting to my ultimate garage at 21, with RWD, FWD, AWD and the bike.
90% of everything you post here is based on how much better your camaro is over a honda...
so who is the hater
yea your car has 3 times the displacement but only 1.8 times the power over an ITR motor
we wont count the torque since its more directly related to displacement
the idea of variable valve timing may be that old, but not the way honda engineered it on FULL PRODUCTION ENGINES.
now what were you saying about technology?
Originally posted by Fast-Ford
The R&D for the older blocks used for racing comes in the form of better heads and components like roller rockers etc. Sure the concept of non-efi has not changed but their components are constantly being revamped and tested by race teams and Ford engineers for racing and street rod applications.
The new engines (IE LS1 and Fords modular V8 are all new designs which make more power from less displacement 281 cubic inches on the Ford 4.6 VS the 225 horse 5.0 litre 302 cubic inch V8 of old) Those engines can have programable chips added and etc but with V8's you tend not to do the computer thing as much as you work with a better manifold or heads. We are constantly looking for better flowing heads. What part of newer computer controlled EFI V8 cars which get great gas mileage for such a large engine, isn't new technology?
i am very impressed with the new GT and the power that ford is squeezing out of the 4.6, most notably between the mid nineties and now. Getting what?, about 40 more horses out of the same motor isnt bad at all.
i really dont dislike ford, i just dislike having to rebuild their crappy 4 cylinders, like on my brothers car.
ive said this before
~boom