i suspected as much. he doesn't seem to be a really great driver. what pisses me off though, is that my friend with a prelude and jrsc could consistantly beat the itr by a car or two...while i pulled dead even with the itr the couple times we raced. now...i can consistantly beat the prelude by abot a car. so what's the deal???? i asked my friend with the itr...and he says he only drives well when racing me, and chirps into 3rd gear, which he supposedly doesn't do often. also (and i've had people in my car both times to vouch for me) it seems that he always jumps a split second before the third honk. oh well.