No, I was saying Mozilla was the orignal web browser back when the web was first started. They created html if I remember correctly (and I probably don't, but whatever). It later became netscape and microsoft released IE for free and basicaly put netscape out of business. Rather than just completely give up, Netscape released the source code for it's new brower (mozilla) and it's an open source project now. You said how long has firebird been around compared to IE and I was just stating that mozilla has been around longer than anybody.