Originally posted by Kai
I still fail to see why people think those that do not beleive in religion as having shallow or empty lives.
I dunno how one can live life without beleiving in something.
thats like trying to breath without air.
So I don't beleive there is an amazing power ruling over all of us, does that make me a bad person?
no, just ignorant.
Last time I checked, no. If you seriously beleive that the non-religious are that hopeless, you're missing out on meeting a lot of perfectly nice and intelligent peole.
not in my experience.
I beleive in coincidence, it's called statistical probability.
which is chaos. but there is order behind it.
That's real life math, not God wiggling his nose and saving your car from getting a dent.
math = langauge of the universe.
unfortunatly, math is cold. Math doesn't really give us answers, it just adds and subtracts.
I never said God wiggled his nose, I never even said God has a nose.
and I think dents in the car, theft, and other such good and bad things that happen in your life are Karma.
I am reading your posts, and it's all lame. All religion, that is.
again, you're not looking at it right.
It keeps evolving and reinventing itself throughout history, and today's religion is pretty much the leftovers of the Protestant Reformation. Pretty outdated if you ask me.
but thats life. Change is constant, and the only one sure thing in the universe is change.
What about video games? Lets see, pretty much every game made today isn't anything better than before. Sure, the graphics improve, there's more interactivity in the enviorment, but the gerneral idea remains.
as far as religion being protestant, you must have issues with chirstianity. I doubt the muslims had anything to do with the protestants (and ironiclly enough, theres not much difference between jews, christians, and muslims, but they all fight anyways).
I recognize the idea, but I don't beleive it.
again, ignorance.
I guess a what I consider a debate, you consider someone showing ignorance.
hey, I'm just preaching my veiws. You don't have to quote me and bring me into your arguements. You can simply ignore me.
I fail to see where the "thinking only YOU" matter comes in, I think of everything that is real. People are real, trees are real, cars are real. God is not.
because in order for it to exist, YOU must see it. Well, theres sound pitches that are above and below our range that we can hear. Do they not exist? We can't hear them....
see, your veiws are flawed. You don't want to beleive in God because maybe the idea scares you, maybe you're not comfortable in death. Point is, people like you exist, and they grow up to be cold, self-serving, and inconsiderate. Maybe I'm doing you some good.
The failure of Marxism has nothing to do with the matter at hand,
when his ideolgy doesn't work, I can care less about a quote he makes.
I figured you where enlightened enough to realize that. Maybe if Lenin didn't die so soon after the Revolution, there would have been no problem.
but the fact is, he DID die and the revolution was a failure. Why? Because history is part of God's making. Many possiblities, one reality.
Marxism did not fail, it was taken over by Stalinist beaurocrats.
it still failed, otherwise it wouldn't not have been taken over. Human nature is what screws up communism. And greed, IE money, pocessions, things of that sort.
you know, the things that make up this country.
Stalinism then proceeded to fail, mostly because of the incredible cost of the Cold War. That's right, the United States basically ran them out of business, funny how that works.
the US didn't lead to the demise of Russia, the government collapes under its own weight. Again, communism won't work in large groups. There needs to be a system of checks and balances in place, and generally, those fail. Look at our republican government, and its clear checks and balances are a falicy. Sure they work sometimes, but nothing is guarenteed success.
So, how about a qoute from a very successful lawyer?
"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose." - Clarence Darrow
I have no respect for lawyers, they prey on the weak and ignorant.
Maybe a Founding Father?
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
ben is saying this not because he doesn't beleive in god, so much as God works in mysterious ways.
Maybe even a former clergyman?
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." - Delos B. McKown
he was part of the church, so I rest my case.
Late addition:
Congrats, you have been completely brainwashed by your government.
lol, anyone on here who reads my posts knows I hate my government.