Yes I understand what all of you are saying... The point im tryin to make is that you cant say a auto car cant be fast b/c there are a lot of fast auto cars out there... I like 5 speed cars, my last was a 13sec rx7 which was insane to drift and shit bein 5 speed and all... As for the lude i have now i didnt have the choice to get it 5 speed or auto but im really happy with what i have i mean its a 12sec auto lude, pretty crazy shit.. Im just sayin dont hate on autos sayin they cant be fast when in reality they can be just as fast as 5 speed car... I mean maybe the "fun" factor isnt there but im happy with it and it does what i want it to do...