no ur misunderstanding me, the tranny is toast, the speedo will fly up in any gear 1-5 and reverse, the car goes no where, no turn to the axles at all. there is no engagement at all but the speed sensor is still working which means the differential is spinning which also means that something is seriously wrong inside the tranny, have yet to pull it or even remove the axles, i'm hoping that whatever broke apart did not damage the tranmission casing and that i'll be able to use my spare hf L3 tranmission to replace whatever parts are messed up and still keep the zc L3 low gears in place with the exception of the 5th gear which i want jsut because it is better for freeway driving