The guys from Koni are indicating that 450F/400R are pushing the limit on the off the shelf Konis? What do you guys think?

I would use this rate, with a larger adjustable rear sway for daily driving and Autocross in my 3000lb. Accord...

 

people have informed me that konis are good up to near 500lbs ots.

BUT it would be pushing the limit, and while yes the konis will stand up to the abuse, you may feel underdampened on the stiffest settings.

you can get them revalved for 140 a piece :P

run 550+ all day long

 

My koni's work great w/ 380/400 springs, but then, my car weighs almost a thousand pounds less than yours. :edit: that can't be right. You sure an accord is 3k pounds? :thinking:

 

Please realize that what Koni says is "pushing the limit" is in fact, pushing the limit in a long run situation. Many people may run rates much higher than that, but probably not for the time periods for which Koni has done the research. Lifetime warrantee, after all.


They made the product, they know what it's used for. If anything, saying a higher rate would get them more sales. I would trust them.

 

First off, if it's CRXLee that told you that, I'd go w/whatever he says ahead of what anybody else says.

These are Koni Yellow?

My thinking is that you are OK unless you have lowered the car quite a bit.

 

CRX Lee actually will not give a spring rate that is the top end of the ots koni yellows, he says all depends on the car, and the application it is used in.

 

holy crap this thread is old :chuckles:



Yes, I got my advice from CRX Lee and Gordon Benson. I think I can get away with 500lb for quite some time, but it WILL improve with a revalve. I also think I'll want slightly higher rates now (maybe 525F/550R) since it is a heavier car and I should NOT have to rely primarily off of a 23mm rear sway to ge t the car to rotate better; the springs do all the work!

Anyways, at this point I think I'm comfortable with the fact that I'll probably want a shock revalve done sometime down the road, so I plan to buy additional bumpstops and misc. parts so I can install the Konis+GCs without taking the old shocks+springs apart. That way they're ready to pop baack in for when I'm without the Konis for 3-6 weeks.

So, for now I hope to just learn to drive with my 100% stock Accord with crappy all season Michelins before I start to spend money on it (tires/suspension). I'm looking at AT LEAST 5-6 more events over 3 months...

 

Sorry. Most of us just got here. :P

 

Hey, I see that we have the same setup. GC with koni yellows. I love them! My question to you gurus (a little O.T.) but does any one know what spring rates the GC Eibach springs come with from the fractory order?? I never specified any rates while I was ordering, and I dont think they say the rates on the springs, cause I just checked (or they might be worn away by now). But im curious, if any body knows what springs the send in the "basic" GC kit im assuming... Thanks! BTW: (98 Integra)

 

heh, my car is stock; I don't own any GCs or Konis, yet...

The part number on the sping should tell you length, inner diameter (99% sure it's 2.5"), and the spring rate. It will either be in metric or standard:

http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/coilover.html#05