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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by brtecson
i dont think that being conservative or liberal would affect that scenario. that would be personal opinion of whoever owns that land
sure it would.. one (unsure which, that is why i ask) would say yes he should have to give it up.. the other saying no, its his land and his right to do what he wants..
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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closest? liberal
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by tirod˛slc
sure it would.. one (unsure which, that is why i ask) would say yes he should have to give it up.. the other saying no, its his land and his right to do what he wants..

to say that either one fits that example would be biased.
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by brtecson
to say that either one fits that example would be biased.
dude... im looking for a simple answer on a simple scenario... its not that hard.. i know one would fall either way
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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dude, i'm telling you: a person's political standpoint wouldn't be relevant in a situation like that.
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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typically someone who opposes abortion is conservative and one who is pro choice is a liberal. Liberals typically are more for change like recognizing gay rights whereas conservatives generally oppose them. These are in general. Of course there are going to be people on the right and left of each spectrum
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by KirkLS
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typically someone who opposes abortion is conservative and one who is pro choice is a liberal. Liberals typically are more for change like recognizing gay rights whereas conservatives generally oppose them. These are in general. Of course there are going to be people on the right and left of each spectrum
so i can guess where you stand on both issues
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by tirod˛slc
actually after talking to a buddy.. i think i have my definations of each mixed up.. could someone give me a quick example of each using this scenario: a guy ownz a few acres of land that is the perfect spot for a new elementary school.. he has no plans for land and doesnt even keep it up.. should he be forced to give it up so an elementary school can be built?

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anyone can be forced to give up land to the government. similar cases have been upheld time and time again by various levels of state and federal courts over the years, including one controversial case where i live. the government is just *supposed* to compensate you justly. they do this when they need to build new highways and such. so if its a public school, they can force you to give up the land. it has nothing to do with your political stance.

if you're asking *should the person sell the land*, then thats different. BUT it still doesn't reflect the person's political stance. people have different reasons for doing different things. this isn't much of a political issue. maybe its sort of a community wellfare issue, but on such a low level of politics (local city politics), there aren't really distinct party lines. cities don't make big decisions on tax and economics (they make little decisions sometimes, depending on the size of the city), or on things like abortion and civil rights.


i'll give you my take on an explanation of conservative vs liberal, however. liberals tend to want big government - more government spending, more social programs, trying to take care of everyone at the same time. well, kind of. liberals tend to want to do things like tax the rich more than the poor. liberalism is more on the side of socialism - no, not communism. when i say socialism, i mean social programs and things like that. the problem with these things is that in order to achieve them, they have to tax more. where else would they get the money?

conservatives tend to prefer smaller government. less government involvement in peoples' lives, less spending overall. hence, tax cuts. conservatives also tend to prefer a more even tax breakdown - people pay closer to the same percentage of taxes all accross the board. a lot of people don't like this because they don't think poor people should have to pay the same *percentage* of taxes as people with more money at the time. judge of this what you will...

so i really don't think this fits into your example. community benefits like more schools in a town or city aren't really social programs, because they are more focused and not all-encompasing. a social program is something like social security. the idea is everyone benefits (which is almost never really the case).

Originally posted by KirkLS
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typically someone who opposes abortion is conservative and one who is pro choice is a liberal. Liberals typically are more for change like recognizing gay rights whereas conservatives generally oppose them. These are in general. Of course there are going to be people on the right and left of each spectrum
yeah, those are generalizations. usually reflected by party platforms pretty evenly, but of course, not always. i'm definately conservative, but i am pro-choice and such... i don't really think these kind of issues should be divided by party. things like economics, spending, taxes, etc should be divided by party.
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by 99civic_love
so i can guess where you stand on both issues
feel free to guess if you want
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by mayonaise
anyone can be forced to give up land to the government. similar cases have been upheld time and time again by various levels of state and federal courts over the years, including one controversial case where i live. the government is just *supposed* to compensate you justly. they do this when they need to build new highways and such. so if its a public school, they can force you to give up the land. it has nothing to do with your political stance.

if you're asking *should the person sell the land*, then thats different. BUT it still doesn't reflect the person's political stance. people have different reasons for doing different things. this isn't much of a political issue. maybe its sort of a community wellfare issue, but on such a low level of politics (local city politics), there aren't really distinct party lines. cities don't make big decisions on tax and economics (they make little decisions sometimes, depending on the size of the city), or on things like abortion and civil rights.
you guys took my scenario COMPLETELY away from the point.... and you made it harder than it was.. there were only 2 simple answers.. each leading to one of the 2 ideals... conservative, or liberal.. and thats it.. of course you can break it up and go deep with it.. but that wasnt the intent.. :slap:

on a side note.. i change my vote to conservative... although i'm liberal when it comes to taxation
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