Should Dubyah get impeached?
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Dubya won't get impeached; he is doing a great job at national security, foreign war, and world domination (what US does best, dont mess with Texas, yee-hah). But he has gone overkill on that agenda, generally neglecting issues of economy and education. But hey, the right to bear arms, conquer the bad guys, and bring democracy to all...its the American way. Sigh.
Just one more year, guys. I really hope Bush doesnt get re-elected.
Just one more year, guys. I really hope Bush doesnt get re-elected.
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From: NoVA
Originally posted by sxecrow
I dont think Saddam is living the life of luxury because his people didnt have medicine, my friend. As stated by FCNL letter to congress on 3/02:
I dont think Saddam is living the life of luxury because his people didnt have medicine, my friend. As stated by FCNL letter to congress on 3/02:
what i clearly stated and you seemed to have missed is that his people don't have medicine because he is busy living a life of luxury and neglecting his people.
read the quote next time before you try to contradict it.
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blah blah blah ... more arguing in a threads long over with. How about you try and argue something new. Heres something from the basement. Typical republican mentality:
Lets hear the bs from you this time.
Originally posted by BAM
DADDY, WHY DID WE HAVE TO ATTACK IRAQ?
Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction, honey.
Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass
destruction.
A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.
Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?
A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.
Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons
of mass destruction, did we?
A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry,
we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election.
Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?
A: To use them in a war, silly.
Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned
to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons
when we went to war with them?
A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had
those weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than
defend themselves.
Q: That doesn't make sense Daddy. Why would they choose to die
if they had all those big weapons to fight us back with?
A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.
Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of
those weapons our government said they did.
A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had
those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them
anyway.
Q: And what was that?
A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam
Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to
invade another country.
Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade
his country?
A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.
Q: Kind of like what they do in China?
A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic
competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in
sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer.
Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American
corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country
tortures people?
A: Right.
Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured?
A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the
government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were
sent to prison and tortured.
Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China?
A: I told you, China is different.
Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?
A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party,
while China is Communist.
Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?
A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad.
Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad?
A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in
Cuba are sent to prison and tortured.
Q: Like in Iraq?
A: Exactly.
Q: And like in China, too?
A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the
other hand, is not.
Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?
A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed
some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any
business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and
started being capitalists like us.
Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba,
and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the
Cubans become capitalists?
A: Don't be a smart-ass.
Q: I didn't think I was being one.
A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in
Cuba.
Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?
A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway,
Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's
not really a legitimate leader anyway.
Q: What's a military coup?
A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a
country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do
in the United States.
Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military
coup?
A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but
Pakistan is our friend.
Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?
A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.
Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by
forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is
an illegitimate leader?
A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because
he helped us invade Afghanistan.
Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan?
A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th.
Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?
A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men, fifteen of them Saudi
Arabians hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into
buildings, killing over 3,000 Americans.
Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?
A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the
oppressive rule of the Taliban.
Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped
off
people's heads and hands?
A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop
off
people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.
Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million
dollars back in May of 2001?
A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good
job fighting drugs.
Q: Fighting drugs?
A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from
growing opium poppies.
Q: How did they do such a good job?
A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the
Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off.
Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for
growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads
and hands off for other reasons?
A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut
off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they
cut off people's hands for stealing bread.
Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi
Arabia?
A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical
patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas
whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the
penalty for women who did not comply.
Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?
A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body
covering.
Q: What's the difference?
A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a
modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body
except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand,
is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a
woman's body except for her eyes and fingers.
Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name.
A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The
Saudis are our friends.
Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September
11th were from Saudi Arabia.
A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.
Q: Who trained them?
A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.
Q: Was he from Afghanistan?
A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a
very bad man.
Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once.
A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet
invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.
Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire
Ronald Reagan talked about?
A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990
or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like
us. We call them Russians now.
Q: So the Soviets, I mean the Russians, are now our friends?
A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many
years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided
not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now.
We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't
help us invade Iraq either.
Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too?
A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename
French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom
Toast.
Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do
what we want them to do?
A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.
Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?
A: Well, yeah. For a while.
Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?
A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made
him our friend, temporarily.
Q: Why did that make him our friend?
A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.
Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?
A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we
looked the other way, to show him we were his friend.
Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically
becomes our friend?
A: Most of the time, yes.
Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is
automatically an enemy?
A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations
can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time,
all the better.
Q: Why?
A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good
for America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who
opposes war is a godless unAmerican Communist. Do you understand
now why we attacked Iraq?
Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to,
right?
A: Yes.
Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq?
A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and
tells him what to do.
Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq
because George W. Bush hears voices in his head?
A. Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close
your eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good
night.
-: Good night, Daddy.
DADDY, WHY DID WE HAVE TO ATTACK IRAQ?
Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction, honey.
Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass
destruction.
A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.
Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?
A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.
Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons
of mass destruction, did we?
A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry,
we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election.
Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?
A: To use them in a war, silly.
Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned
to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons
when we went to war with them?
A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had
those weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than
defend themselves.
Q: That doesn't make sense Daddy. Why would they choose to die
if they had all those big weapons to fight us back with?
A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.
Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of
those weapons our government said they did.
A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had
those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them
anyway.
Q: And what was that?
A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam
Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to
invade another country.
Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade
his country?
A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.
Q: Kind of like what they do in China?
A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic
competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in
sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer.
Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American
corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country
tortures people?
A: Right.
Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured?
A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the
government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were
sent to prison and tortured.
Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China?
A: I told you, China is different.
Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?
A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party,
while China is Communist.
Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?
A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad.
Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad?
A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in
Cuba are sent to prison and tortured.
Q: Like in Iraq?
A: Exactly.
Q: And like in China, too?
A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the
other hand, is not.
Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?
A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed
some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any
business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and
started being capitalists like us.
Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba,
and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the
Cubans become capitalists?
A: Don't be a smart-ass.
Q: I didn't think I was being one.
A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in
Cuba.
Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?
A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway,
Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's
not really a legitimate leader anyway.
Q: What's a military coup?
A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a
country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do
in the United States.
Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military
coup?
A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but
Pakistan is our friend.
Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?
A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.
Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by
forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is
an illegitimate leader?
A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because
he helped us invade Afghanistan.
Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan?
A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th.
Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?
A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men, fifteen of them Saudi
Arabians hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into
buildings, killing over 3,000 Americans.
Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?
A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the
oppressive rule of the Taliban.
Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped
off
people's heads and hands?
A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop
off
people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.
Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million
dollars back in May of 2001?
A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good
job fighting drugs.
Q: Fighting drugs?
A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from
growing opium poppies.
Q: How did they do such a good job?
A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the
Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off.
Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for
growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads
and hands off for other reasons?
A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut
off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they
cut off people's hands for stealing bread.
Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi
Arabia?
A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical
patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas
whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the
penalty for women who did not comply.
Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?
A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body
covering.
Q: What's the difference?
A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a
modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body
except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand,
is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a
woman's body except for her eyes and fingers.
Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name.
A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The
Saudis are our friends.
Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September
11th were from Saudi Arabia.
A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.
Q: Who trained them?
A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.
Q: Was he from Afghanistan?
A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a
very bad man.
Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once.
A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet
invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.
Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire
Ronald Reagan talked about?
A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990
or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like
us. We call them Russians now.
Q: So the Soviets, I mean the Russians, are now our friends?
A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many
years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided
not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now.
We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't
help us invade Iraq either.
Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too?
A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename
French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom
Toast.
Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do
what we want them to do?
A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.
Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?
A: Well, yeah. For a while.
Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?
A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made
him our friend, temporarily.
Q: Why did that make him our friend?
A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.
Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?
A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we
looked the other way, to show him we were his friend.
Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically
becomes our friend?
A: Most of the time, yes.
Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is
automatically an enemy?
A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations
can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time,
all the better.
Q: Why?
A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good
for America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who
opposes war is a godless unAmerican Communist. Do you understand
now why we attacked Iraq?
Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to,
right?
A: Yes.
Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq?
A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and
tells him what to do.
Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq
because George W. Bush hears voices in his head?
A. Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close
your eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good
night.
-: Good night, Daddy.
A little chin music
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From: Cleveland, Ohio - Rock 'n Roll capitol of the World
I thought we were talking about baseball, golf, and the Hulk (which, by the way, is a very good movie. Highly recomended :thumbup: ). Who said we were reverting back to politics? Oh, yeah...... it's the whiney, crybaby liberals who just have to get the last word in and won't shut up untill their vocal cords give out. Here we go again, same old story 
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From: Tampa, FL
Originally posted by fastball
I thought we were talking about baseball, golf, and the Hulk (which, by the way, is a very good movie. Highly recomended :thumbup: ). Who said we were reverting back to politics? Oh, yeah...... it's the whiney, crybaby liberals who just have to get the last word in and won't shut up untill their vocal cords give out. Here we go again, same old story .
I thought we were talking about baseball, golf, and the Hulk (which, by the way, is a very good movie. Highly recomended :thumbup: ). Who said we were reverting back to politics? Oh, yeah...... it's the whiney, crybaby liberals who just have to get the last word in and won't shut up untill their vocal cords give out. Here we go again, same old story
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A little chin music
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Posts: 2,655
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, Ohio - Rock 'n Roll capitol of the World
Originally posted by sxecrow
Shucks, you're still here. I coulda swore the thread about about Emperor Bush but :dunno: ... yea, its us whiney crybabies with all the valid points and just the typical close minded republicans who dont care to listen. Here we go again, same old mentality.
Shucks, you're still here. I coulda swore the thread about about Emperor Bush but :dunno: ... yea, its us whiney crybabies with all the valid points and just the typical close minded republicans who dont care to listen. Here we go again, same old mentality.
Sinner
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Posts: 6,599
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From: NoVA
Originally posted by sxecrow
blah blah blah ... more arguing in a threads long over with. How about you try and argue something new. Heres something from the basement. Typical republican mentality:
Lets hear the bs from you this time.
blah blah blah ... more arguing in a threads long over with. How about you try and argue something new. Heres something from the basement. Typical republican mentality:
Lets hear the bs from you this time.
i was listening to WABC the other night and the DJ made an interesting point.
generally the left base their views on emotion, while the right on the other hand generally base their views on logic and/or reason. this means that there can never be a real compromise between the views.
now there was another valid point that he made that i thought was pretty funny, but the left will probably get offended or whatever. the guy called the average liberal a bobblehead. this because whenever any liberal politician or whatever makes a statement the rest of the sheep just nod along in agreeance and make no real argument for themselves.
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From: GU/CA
hmmm.. i would think its the other way around, judging from this thread. Replublican #1:Good Ole Dubya can do no wrong
Replublican #2: Word! God Bless America
Replublican#3: Very True, the man cares for us!(haha,yaaa rightttt)
Person#4: Gee guys, there's so much wrong with our country today, maybe Bush can do more.
Replublican#1: shut up! youre a dumbass if you dont agree with us. your opinions are full of shit.
Replublican #2: ya, you're not patriotic and you dont care for the President, and thus you're a liberal and you're not American.
Person#4: but cant we try to improve and change the old fashioned views of this country?
Replublican#3: hell no, this is perfect.
damn, it does seem like you guys are living in the Replublican perfect Matrix.
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Replublican #2: Word! God Bless America
Replublican#3: Very True, the man cares for us!(haha,yaaa rightttt)
Person#4: Gee guys, there's so much wrong with our country today, maybe Bush can do more.
Replublican#1: shut up! youre a dumbass if you dont agree with us. your opinions are full of shit.
Replublican #2: ya, you're not patriotic and you dont care for the President, and thus you're a liberal and you're not American.
Person#4: but cant we try to improve and change the old fashioned views of this country?
Replublican#3: hell no, this is perfect.
damn, it does seem like you guys are living in the Replublican perfect Matrix.
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