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Old May 14, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by Grifter
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she led neo and morpheous to believe that teh way to destory the matrix was through neo finding the source, and she said trinity would die
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Old May 14, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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Old May 15, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by thewretchedbeaver
she led neo and morpheous to believe that teh way to destory the matrix was through neo finding the source, and she said trinity would die
I don't know about you, but I watched the movie. The Oracle never said Trinity would die, she just said that the choice was Neo's to make and it had already been made. She may have led them to believe that the matrix would be destroyed by finding The Source, but she never flat out said that. I fully believe she's on the side of the rebels, and that Neo HAD to find the Architect in order to understand why he must stand out above the other "ones" like himself. Just like how she flat out told Neo he wasn't the One in the first film, she uses deception to further the cause. She lied to Neo once, and everything turned out fine, she falsely implied something this time, and everything was ok. I think she'll throw him off track again, and it will lead to their salvation.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 12:41 AM
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Awesome fight scenes. Wow. Incredible.

Too much love. Trinity loves Neo. Neo loves Trinity. I understand. You made your point.

I got tired of everyone saying "You have already made the choice" and "the choice is not up to you" and whatnot.

Overall, it was fairly good. I don't like action movies that have no discernible conclusion, but I understand that they had to set it up for the conclusion. It seemed significantly slower than the first one, and was too focused on semantics. Pretty good, though.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by White[Pony]
She lied to Neo once, and everything turned out fine, she falsely implied something this time, and everything was ok. I think she'll throw him off track again, and it will lead to their salvation.
The actress who played the Oracle died during the making of Reloaded, so I'm not sure if she's going to put in an appearance in the next one.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by JGordon
The actress who played the Oracle died during the making of Reloaded, so I'm not sure if she's going to put in an appearance in the next one.
again, always looking into the future, never to the past.

Like T3 and T4, and the LOTR trilogy. Both MAtrix movies this year were filmed at the same time. She died shortly after her final scripted parts were filmed for both movies.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by JGordon
The actress who played the Oracle died during the making of Reloaded, so I'm not sure if she's going to put in an appearance in the next one.
It was choice that she knew.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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Was it me or were they in a matrix inside a matrix? How else could you explain Niobi's ship exploding but she's not dead, and how he stopped the machine's from attacking??? I gotta go see this again. Is persephone`(sp?) the mother of the matrix?
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Old May 15, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by thewretchedbeaver
cipher died in teh first one remember tank shot him with that elctro gun thing

You only see 4 body bags not 5. so it's very possible it's cipher.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by TeggerLS
Was it me or were they in a matrix inside a matrix? How else could you explain Niobi's ship exploding but she's not dead, and how he stopped the machine's from attacking??? I gotta go see this again. Is persephone`(sp?) the mother of the matrix?
Persephone is not the mother of the Matrix. She is the french guy's....companion. The Oracle is the mother of the matrix, and the Architect is the father. Niobi's ship did not explode, it was the other captain's...the bald guy. Remember him and his two other crew, a tall guy and short girl died in the electricity control room? That was them dying, Niobi and her ship had nothing to do with that ship explosion.
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