Donnie Darko -- figured it out!
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From: The Rez
Originally posted by sman789
isnt that just his opinion tho....the real answer should come from the writer
but maybe there is,
none
isnt that just his opinion tho....the real answer should come from the writer
but maybe there is,
none
Don't touch me I'm tender
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From: Va beach/Blacksburg, VA
Originally posted by sympl_RS
That's not just his opinion...it explains it in the book. :thumbup:
That's not just his opinion...it explains it in the book. :thumbup:
Don't touch me I'm tender
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From: Va beach/Blacksburg, VA
coo, and everyone who thought it was the meds messin him up....i just watched the DVDs deleted scenes and it shows the drugs were a placebo(which should be in the book)
(who cares i revived this)
(who cares i revived this)
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From: Fussa, Japan
okay...i can see about hte alternate world. but if the future isn't laid out yet - wouldn't the jet engine have to fall in the present and not the future to travel into the past? so what happens at the end? does donnie physically travel back into time to the point before midnight? or does this 'alternate' world die, leaving donnie of the past aware of future events?
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From: Grafton, WI.
Originally posted by sympl_RS
Alright...check this out. I discussed this with a guy I know who has read the book. He explained it rather well. I'll do my best to tell it you guys. Time is constant. However, when something passes through the portal, aka the jet engine, it creates a rip in time and an alternate world is the result. The alternate world only lasts a few weeks though. In the alternate world, there is a chosen one, the manipulated living and the manipulated dead. It is the chosen ones job to direct whatever caused the rip back through the portal. So Donnie's job is to direct the jet engine back through the portal. However, he dosn't know that in the beginning. That's where Frank, the rabbit comes in. The manipulated dead are people who die in the alterante world. They have the ability to communicate with the chosen one and direct them to the ultimate goal of fixing the rip. Frank is part of the manipulated dead. Throughout the movie, he instructs Donnie to do things that cause all the chaos. Flooding the school, burning the house down, etc. The manipulated living set up opstacles for the chosen one. The teachers and Patrick Swayze would be the manipulated living. Like the science teacher that Donnie talks to about time travel. So ultimately, Frank gets Donnie to do a bunch of fuked up shit so Donnie would create nothing but chaos and sees what happens when he lives. The teachers set up obstacles that allow Donnie to figure out his powers of being the chosen one and figure out what he's supposed to do with them. So at the end...Donnie goes to the cliff and re-directs the jet engine back through the portal which sends him back 28 days earlier where the engine kills him and the rip is fixed. Any questions??
Alright...check this out. I discussed this with a guy I know who has read the book. He explained it rather well. I'll do my best to tell it you guys. Time is constant. However, when something passes through the portal, aka the jet engine, it creates a rip in time and an alternate world is the result. The alternate world only lasts a few weeks though. In the alternate world, there is a chosen one, the manipulated living and the manipulated dead. It is the chosen ones job to direct whatever caused the rip back through the portal. So Donnie's job is to direct the jet engine back through the portal. However, he dosn't know that in the beginning. That's where Frank, the rabbit comes in. The manipulated dead are people who die in the alterante world. They have the ability to communicate with the chosen one and direct them to the ultimate goal of fixing the rip. Frank is part of the manipulated dead. Throughout the movie, he instructs Donnie to do things that cause all the chaos. Flooding the school, burning the house down, etc. The manipulated living set up opstacles for the chosen one. The teachers and Patrick Swayze would be the manipulated living. Like the science teacher that Donnie talks to about time travel. So ultimately, Frank gets Donnie to do a bunch of fuked up shit so Donnie would create nothing but chaos and sees what happens when he lives. The teachers set up obstacles that allow Donnie to figure out his powers of being the chosen one and figure out what he's supposed to do with them. So at the end...Donnie goes to the cliff and re-directs the jet engine back through the portal which sends him back 28 days earlier where the engine kills him and the rip is fixed. Any questions??
VERY NICE! :thumbup: dead on.
and andy, he isn't "geeking out" on anything, the pills were placebos :slap:
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From: San Antonio, Texas
Originally posted by sympl_RS
Alright...check this out. I discussed this with a guy I know who has read the book. He explained it rather well. I'll do my best to tell it you guys. Time is constant. However, when something passes through the portal, aka the jet engine, it creates a rip in time and an alternate world is the result. The alternate world only lasts a few weeks though. In the alternate world, there is a chosen one, the manipulated living and the manipulated dead. It is the chosen ones job to direct whatever caused the rip back through the portal. So Donnie's job is to direct the jet engine back through the portal. However, he dosn't know that in the beginning. That's where Frank, the rabbit comes in. The manipulated dead are people who die in the alterante world. They have the ability to communicate with the chosen one and direct them to the ultimate goal of fixing the rip. Frank is part of the manipulated dead. Throughout the movie, he instructs Donnie to do things that cause all the chaos. Flooding the school, burning the house down, etc. The manipulated living set up opstacles for the chosen one. The teachers and Patrick Swayze would be the manipulated living. Like the science teacher that Donnie talks to about time travel. So ultimately, Frank gets Donnie to do a bunch of fuked up shit so Donnie would create nothing but chaos and sees what happens when he lives. The teachers set up obstacles that allow Donnie to figure out his powers of being the chosen one and figure out what he's supposed to do with them. So at the end...Donnie goes to the cliff and re-directs the jet engine back through the portal which sends him back 28 days earlier where the engine kills him and the rip is fixed. Any questions??
Alright...check this out. I discussed this with a guy I know who has read the book. He explained it rather well. I'll do my best to tell it you guys. Time is constant. However, when something passes through the portal, aka the jet engine, it creates a rip in time and an alternate world is the result. The alternate world only lasts a few weeks though. In the alternate world, there is a chosen one, the manipulated living and the manipulated dead. It is the chosen ones job to direct whatever caused the rip back through the portal. So Donnie's job is to direct the jet engine back through the portal. However, he dosn't know that in the beginning. That's where Frank, the rabbit comes in. The manipulated dead are people who die in the alterante world. They have the ability to communicate with the chosen one and direct them to the ultimate goal of fixing the rip. Frank is part of the manipulated dead. Throughout the movie, he instructs Donnie to do things that cause all the chaos. Flooding the school, burning the house down, etc. The manipulated living set up opstacles for the chosen one. The teachers and Patrick Swayze would be the manipulated living. Like the science teacher that Donnie talks to about time travel. So ultimately, Frank gets Donnie to do a bunch of fuked up shit so Donnie would create nothing but chaos and sees what happens when he lives. The teachers set up obstacles that allow Donnie to figure out his powers of being the chosen one and figure out what he's supposed to do with them. So at the end...Donnie goes to the cliff and re-directs the jet engine back through the portal which sends him back 28 days earlier where the engine kills him and the rip is fixed. Any questions??
right on the money. I finally saw it, twice in a row
I think there might have been a little bit more, tho. The metaphorical expressions from this movie were increadible. Things like donnies beleifes and ideals, and how "rightciousness" (I know I killed that word
h: ) isn't always right.Things like how the Kiddie Porn Author was full of shit and crooked, dispite his outwardly apearence (corperate/government/religious corruption), yet at the same time, showed his "right" was wrong as well.
The things I think that were really cool, tho, and looked like alot of people overlooked (or in this DD thread anyways, since I didn't look at the other ones yet):
- there was a whole hellavulot of forshadowing. In the opening sequence with donnie on his bike, Frank's car is driving the other way, meanwhile donnie rides over "dip" writen in the road. Also, in the same sequence, donnies mom is reading steven kings "it" or the passenger of Franks ride, a clown. The later isn't really all that important, tho.
- speaking of Frank, Donnies sister is dating him. You hear his car drive off before the engine hits the house. She's asking for him at the party.
- the undoing of Donnie is quite interesting. The movie clearly demonstrates each person has there own set path or perspective, and how their actions run the set coarse. Given that, just about everything that led to donnies undoing was brough upon entirely by him. Granted, alot of it was inconsiquencial, there was instances of indirect undoing, things like Donnie suggesting the party (which led to running ot of beer, which in turn cause Frank to get more, which led to Gretchin's death)
- The Frank that Donnies dad makes refrence to at the hotel near the begining has a similar patern to donnies (FF vs. DD). Also, the author of the short story donnies class had to read (GG). I dunno if there's an EE mentioned somewhere....
- 28:6:42:12.... the time he has left..... Add it up, and it equals 88. Two infinity symbols turned sideways.... Or maybe 8x11.... the 11th hour, and 8 being a major number in the universe. Actually, its 7, but 8 is the next step. Like in music, how there's 8 notes in an octave, yet there's really only 7, the 8th is just repeated. Also, 88 keys in a piano (11 octaves, duh
)I didn't know there was a book, tho
h: sounds like I may need to read it.sorry about the ramble, I'm alittle stoned :bandito: