Gun Crew: saw a shooting victim today
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Gun Crew: saw a shooting victim today
I was at the Tanner gun show in Denver today. Had been there for a couple of hours, my buddy and I are going to check out one last thing (he wanted a backpack) before leaving. We're towards the back of the hall when we hear a "BLAM" and everybody gets real quiet.
We were pretty sure it was a gunshot, but nobody runs for the exits or anything and it was on the opposite side of the hall so after a moment we go on our way. My buddy buys his backpack and about 10 minutes after the gunshot we are walking towards the exit.
Get close to the exit, and there's a sheriff putting up a police line, a puddle of blood on the floor, and a bunch of EMTs working on a guy laying on the ground. Turns out a guy shot himself. I heard 2 conflicting stories from "witnesses" to the event.
1. He went up to the first gun table on the way in, picked up a firearm just to look at it, and it went off. Shooting himself in the upper chest/shoulder.
2. He was at the gun check table, pulling his firearm out of his shoulder holster to show the security guard, and shot himself as he was drawing.
I think option 2 sounds more likely.
http://www.9news.com/news/article.as...4994&catid=339
Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics, this was the best I could do at the time.
We were pretty sure it was a gunshot, but nobody runs for the exits or anything and it was on the opposite side of the hall so after a moment we go on our way. My buddy buys his backpack and about 10 minutes after the gunshot we are walking towards the exit.
Get close to the exit, and there's a sheriff putting up a police line, a puddle of blood on the floor, and a bunch of EMTs working on a guy laying on the ground. Turns out a guy shot himself. I heard 2 conflicting stories from "witnesses" to the event.
1. He went up to the first gun table on the way in, picked up a firearm just to look at it, and it went off. Shooting himself in the upper chest/shoulder.
2. He was at the gun check table, pulling his firearm out of his shoulder holster to show the security guard, and shot himself as he was drawing.
I think option 2 sounds more likely.
http://www.9news.com/news/article.as...4994&catid=339
Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics, this was the best I could do at the time.
Last edited by JGordon; Mar 20, 2010 at 02:42 PM.
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So more information is ever so slowly filtering out about this shooting.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/br...-89052267.html
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14742845
Sounds like the guy who got shot wasn't even the one looking at or holding the gun, which really sucks. It also does sound like it was a loaded firearm from a dealer's table. At least the kid is in good condition.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/br...-89052267.html
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14742845
Adams County authorities today released the names of the men involved in an apparently accidental shooting at the Tanner Gun Show at the Denver Merchandise Mart Saturday.
Joshua Hertzler, 24, of Thornton was examining a pistol at the table of vendor James Peterschmidt, 68, of Aurora when gun went off and struck 22-year-old Grant Edmunds of Laramie, Wyo.
Adams County Sheriff's spokeswoman Candi Baker said the shooting remains under investigation and the facts will be presented to the District Attorney's office to determine charges, if any.
Edmunds remained in Denver Health Medical Center Tuesday listed in good condition. A witness told 9News on Saturday that he was shot in the shoulder.
Baker previously said there were numerous witnesses nearby when the gun went off.
The show's rules for vendors repeat several times that loaded gun and loose ammunition is prohibited. Security personnel disable most guns, looping zip ties through gun chambers.
The Tanner Gun Show previously was scrutinized in 1999 when three guns bought there were used by Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris in the Columbine High School shooting.
In March 2008 a 64-year-old Littleton man accidentally shot himself in the stomach with .38-caliber handgun in the mart's parking lot.
Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14...#ixzz0jCNSqt9d
Joshua Hertzler, 24, of Thornton was examining a pistol at the table of vendor James Peterschmidt, 68, of Aurora when gun went off and struck 22-year-old Grant Edmunds of Laramie, Wyo.
Adams County Sheriff's spokeswoman Candi Baker said the shooting remains under investigation and the facts will be presented to the District Attorney's office to determine charges, if any.
Edmunds remained in Denver Health Medical Center Tuesday listed in good condition. A witness told 9News on Saturday that he was shot in the shoulder.
Baker previously said there were numerous witnesses nearby when the gun went off.
The show's rules for vendors repeat several times that loaded gun and loose ammunition is prohibited. Security personnel disable most guns, looping zip ties through gun chambers.
The Tanner Gun Show previously was scrutinized in 1999 when three guns bought there were used by Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris in the Columbine High School shooting.
In March 2008 a 64-year-old Littleton man accidentally shot himself in the stomach with .38-caliber handgun in the mart's parking lot.
Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14...#ixzz0jCNSqt9d
Last edited by JGordon; Mar 25, 2010 at 06:27 AM.
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jesus christ :shake:
A. what kind of reputable safety conscience dealer has loaded guns at his table
B. what kind of person doesn't verify a gun is safe before handing it to someone else
C. who takes a firearm without knowing if it is in fact safe
D. what kind of show has repeated problems like this and isn't dealt with
this shit pisses me off because it's examples like this where the few bad apples fuck it up for everyone else. I go, well used to go, to a lot of shows with my grandfather when he was actively attending and dealing from his tables and let me tell you...
Rule 1. every gun is treated as loaded
Rule 2. you always verify the chamber is clear before handing a firearm over to a customer
Rule 3. you never accept a firearm on someones word that it's clear, always double check
Rule 4. you always again verify the firearm is unloaded once it's handed back to you
and we always told people to point our guns at us if they wanted to point them anywhere but up, not around the show. because we KNOW they are unloaded and if we fuck up we don't want someone else being injured because of our ineptness.
hell i don't even hand a loaded firearm to family members unless we actually shooting somewhere. ALWAYS unload when exchanging hands unless you're on the line or the likes
A. what kind of reputable safety conscience dealer has loaded guns at his table
B. what kind of person doesn't verify a gun is safe before handing it to someone else
C. who takes a firearm without knowing if it is in fact safe
D. what kind of show has repeated problems like this and isn't dealt with
this shit pisses me off because it's examples like this where the few bad apples fuck it up for everyone else. I go, well used to go, to a lot of shows with my grandfather when he was actively attending and dealing from his tables and let me tell you...
Rule 1. every gun is treated as loaded
Rule 2. you always verify the chamber is clear before handing a firearm over to a customer
Rule 3. you never accept a firearm on someones word that it's clear, always double check
Rule 4. you always again verify the firearm is unloaded once it's handed back to you
and we always told people to point our guns at us if they wanted to point them anywhere but up, not around the show. because we KNOW they are unloaded and if we fuck up we don't want someone else being injured because of our ineptness.
hell i don't even hand a loaded firearm to family members unless we actually shooting somewhere. ALWAYS unload when exchanging hands unless you're on the line or the likes