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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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FINALLY! This shit is OVER!! Coleman and the Republican party pulled some real sheisty shit on this...

State Supreme Court rules for Franken; Coleman won't appeal

Republican Norm Coleman ended his bruising eight-month court fight over Minnesota's U.S. Senate seat this afternoon, conceding to Democrat Al Franken after the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled in Franken's favor.

The justices ruled today that Franken won the U.S. Senate election and said he is entitled to an election certificate that would lead to him being seated in the Senate.

"Affirmed," wrote the Supreme Court, unanimously rejecting Coleman's claims that inconsistent practices by local elections officials and wrong decisions by a lower court had denied him victory.

Two hours after the decision was released, Coleman said he would "abide by the results."

Within minutes, Gov. Tim Pawlenty's office removed the last hurdle to Franken's being seated in the Senate, saying he would sign Franken's certificate of election.

"Further litigation damages the unity of our state," Coleman said during a news conference held at his St. Paul home. "The future today is that we have a new United States senator."

Coleman said he had called Franken to "congratulate him for his victory. I told him it's the best job he will ever have."

He added, "sure I wanted to win, both for myself and so many wonderful supporters." He said he doesn't know yet what he'll do in the future.

In a prepared statement, Pawlenty said: "In light of that decision and Senator Coleman's announcement that he will not be pursuing an appeal, I will be signing the election certificate today as directed by the court and applicable law."

In its unanimous, 32-page decision, the justices wrote: "Al Franken received the highest number of votes legally cast and is entitled [under Minnesota law] to receive the certificate of election as United States Senator from the State of Minnesota."

In upholding a lower court ruling in April, the justices said Coleman had "not shown that the trial court's findings of fact are clearly erroneous or that the court committed an error of law or abused its discretion."

But the court did not grant Franken's bid to make its ruling effective immediately, leaving a window for an appeal by Coleman.

The ruling also did not directly address Pawlenty's role. The court's ruling stopped short of explicitly ordering the governor to sign the document, saying only that Franken was "entitled" to it.

In declining Franken's request to make the ruling effective immediately, the court gave Coleman 10 days to ask for a rehearing, something it rarely grants. The ruling also sidesteps Franken's request that the court direct Pawlenty and Secretary of State Mark Ritchie to sign a certificate "promptly."

The delay for a rehearing could have given Coleman and better chance to ask the U.S. Supreme Court to stay the decision and to review the case.

"The bottom line is that the Court says that Franken is entitled to an election certificate, but there is no direct order to the state's governor to sign one," said Loyola Law School professor Richard Hasen, who has followed the case closely. "We'll see what the governor does, if Coleman does not concede, as he well may at this point."

In recent weeks, Pawlenty had talked about how he would not hold up an election certificate if ordered by the court to issue one.

"I'm going to do whatever the court says," Pawlenty said at a news conference a couple of weeks ago. "When the court decides that issue, as soon as I'm directed or required to sign that certificate, I will. I am not going to hold it up or delay it in any fashion."

Guy-Uriel Charles, a Duke University law professor who has also tracked the case, said the court appeared to be giving deference to separation of powers in state government by not ordering Pawlenty to issue a certificate within a specific time period.

"The court isn't ordering the governor to do anything, but I think if the governor refuses, the court order him to do it," Charles said.

In upholding a lower court ruling in April, the justices said Coleman had "not shown that the trial court's findings of fact are clearly erroneous or that the court committed an error of law or abused its discretion."

The justices also said that neither the trial court nor local elections officials violated constitutional rights to equal protection, a cornerstone of Coleman's case and any possible federal appeal.

"Coleman neither claims nor produced any evidence that the differing treatment of absentee ballots among jurisdictions during the election was the result of intentional or purposeful discrimination against individuals or classes," the court said.

It added that the trial court -- a three-judge panel -- didn't discriminate against individuals or classes when it excluded certain types of absentee ballots from being counted.

The ruling reinforces an order by the three-judge panel declaring Franken the winner by 312 votes; with Coleman's concession, it made him the 60th Democratic vote in the U.S. Senate, giving them a filibuster-proof majority.

Majority Leader Harry Reid said today that Pawlenty should respect the votes of his constituents and his state's highest court.

Jim Manley, a spokesman for said the earliest Franken would be seated is next week because the Senate is out of session for the July 4 holiday.

The White House issued a prepared statement from President Obama that read, "I look forward to working with Senator-Elect Franken to build a new foundation for growth and prosperity by lowering health care costs and investing in the kind of clean energy jobs and industries that will help America lead in the 21st century."

Sen. Amy Klobuchar, who has served since the beginning of the year as Minnesota's sole senator, issued a statement, saying, "I congratulate Al Franken on a hard-earned and long-awaited election victory. I welcome him as my new Senate colleague from Minnesota. I respect Norm Coleman for what I'm sure was a very difficult decision. He had the right to pursue a legal appeal, but he chose to do the right thing for Minnesota. ... "I also thank my staff for their incredible work doing double duty for the past six months. I am very proud of the work they did during a tough time."

A triumphant DFL quickly issued a news release that read, in part, "Minnesotans have shown great patience since Election Night ... We trust that Senator-elect Franken will be seated without delay."

The state Republican Party issued a statement in which it said "today's ruling wrongly disenfranchised thousands of Minnesotans who deserve to have their votes counted." After Coleman conceded, it issued another statement:

"Senator Coleman's gracious remarks following a long and hard fought campaign are to be commended. ... Norm's commitment to Minnesota will never waver. He is a good man who has fought the good fight."

Staff writer Bob von Sternberg and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.startribune.com/politics/...P:QMDCinchO7DU
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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It sure took long enough. :shake:
Anyway, it's good to see this settled.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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The first election showed that Coleman won. And somehow each time they re counted, Franken got more and more votes.:shrug:

I don't think i would classify it as "sheisty shit" to question it.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BetterBob
The first election showed that Coleman won. And somehow each time they re counted, Franken got more and more votes.:shrug:

I don't think i would classify it as "sheisty shit" to question it.
"sheisty shit" = coleman's goons throwing out thousands of ballots, most of which were votes for franken. franken got more and more votes as he disputed the ballots that were thrown out.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scotttharobot
"sheisty shit" = coleman's goons throwing out thousands of ballots, most of which were votes for franken. franken got more and more votes as he disputed the ballots that were thrown out.

So, Colman was ahead in the first count, and then they threw out a bunch of Franken's votes, and he was ahead?

That makes sense.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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First predictions called Franken the winner. The first official count (after all precincts were recorded) showed Coleman ahead by a bit. Franken was suspicious, and discovered that many districts (under the guidance of our terrible governor) threw out thousands of ballots, citing bogus reasons. These thousands of ballots were reviewed by a board, who voted on the legitimacy of each ballot, one by one. After that, the official count (with these ballots recorded) showed Franken ahead by 300 or so, and a legal battle ensued. Coleman kept appealing, all the way up to the supreme court.

Today, they officially passed judgement on Franken winning, by those 300 or so votes.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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He may have won legitimately, but i doubt it.

But at least now you have the super majority. Everything they do is all on them now.

Have fun with health care!
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BetterBob
He may have won legitimately, but i doubt it.

But at least now you have the super majority. Everything they do is all on them now.

Have fun with health care!
You doubt it? It's been disputed for eight months. People much more qualified than you on the topic of Minnesota politics declared him the winner, but OK, whatever you say.

and thanks! I'm really looking forward to a different school of thought in our political system.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by scotttharobot

and thanks! I'm really looking forward to a different school of thought in our political system.
Yeah it's been working just stellar so far
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