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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Fuckin spend that shit yo.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lil_1_2002
whats wamu's rate right now?
all banks are between 1-3 right now depending on how long you want to leave in CD
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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WAMU online savings is 1.15 right now

HSBC is 2.6
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
WAMU online savings is 1.15 right now

HSBC is 2.6
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Horrible.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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I know...my WAMU was like 5.xx last year.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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1.15??? wtf wamu was higher then hsbc i had my monies there now i gotta switch it back to hsbc
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
I know...my WAMU was like 5.xx last year.
Pay the taxes on it and put it in a Roth IRA. The average growth is 10% nohomo, but the maximum yearly contribution is $5,000 if you earn enough over that to cover the taxes. You can't put more in it than you can show in taxable income, that's the rule. But it's taxed up-front, so you pay a lower tax rate upon withdrawal than you would on the matured sum.

A $4000 contribution to a Roth-IRA growing at a constant rate of 10% will, in 25 years, grow to 4000 * 1.125 = $43,338.82. Because this $4000 contribution is not tax-deductible, the contribution plus the tax will cost 4000 / (1-.25) = $5333.33 in the year of contribution (i.e. the taxes on $5333.33 earned will be $1333.33, leaving $4000 to invest).

That example is just one year's contribution maturing at it's natural rate off of non-taxable interest. There's enough in that safety deposit box to do a maximum contribution every year for 10 years. After 5 years, you could make tax-free withdrawals, but if you let it go 25 years after untouched, it could turn into millions.

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jafro
Pay the taxes on it and put it in a Roth IRA. The average growth is 10% nohomo, but the maximum yearly contribution is $5,000 if you earn enough over that to cover the taxes. You can't put more in it than you can show in taxable income, that's the rule. But it's taxed up-front, so you pay a lower tax rate upon withdrawal than you would on the matured sum.

A $4000 contribution to a Roth-IRA growing at a constant rate of 10% will, in 25 years, grow to 4000 * 1.125 = $43,338.82. Because this $4000 contribution is not tax-deductible, the contribution plus the tax will cost 4000 / (1-.25) = $5333.33 in the year of contribution (i.e. the taxes on $5333.33 earned will be $1333.33, leaving $4000 to invest).

That example is just one year's contribution maturing at it's natural rate off of non-taxable interest. There's enough in that safety deposit box to do a maximum contribution every year for 10 years. After 5 years, you could make tax-free withdrawals, but if you let it go 25 years after untouched, it could turn into millions.
In this market, a Roth IRA will almost certainly lose money if you invest in it right now (assuming these are short term funds). The market has not bottomed out yet. Not to mention, they are not FDIC insured.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 04:03 AM
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If I had 50k, I'd get it in 20s, spread it out on my bed, and just lay in it(not really).

I wouldn't trust a safety deposit box with such a large amount of money, but I'm not very trusting anyway. I have neither a SDB or an interest-earning account of any kind, just a checking account. If I had a lot of money though (which I consider 50k to be), I'd rather earn interest on it. Besides, paying taxes is a good thing.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 06:46 AM
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Under his mattress > Safe deposit box
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