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Old 07-29-2009, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Draconius
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:27 PM
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Here's something i'm trying to figure out and maybe you guys can help explain.

Back before I even started working out last year, I looked like this..

239 34% Body Fat




8 weeks later I looked like this

215. 30.1% Body Fat


Now I just took the following pictures and I look like this

211 29.4% Body Fat




I look almost as fat as I did when I first started. Yet i weigh less and my body fat% is lower. WTF
Old 07-29-2009, 01:30 PM
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looks to me you have less man boobs and less side ripples.
Old 07-29-2009, 01:38 PM
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Yea but my thing is this, why am i close to the same weight in the 2nd set of pics but i look much bigger. That's what i don't understand.
Old 07-29-2009, 01:41 PM
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Muscle weighs more than body fat. You may have bulked up a bit underneath turning the fat into muscle. You need high cardio/low resistance and low weight high rep exersizes to burn your tummy away
Old 07-30-2009, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Draconius
Muscle weighs more than body fat. You may have bulked up a bit underneath turning the fat into muscle. You need high cardio/low resistance and low weight high rep exersizes to burn your tummy away

Well that's not going to happen, so i guess i'll have to stick with a belly. I'm not trying to cut, i'm trying to build strength which is why i lift hard. I'm just going to watch my calorie intake and watch the fat shed away that way.

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Old 07-30-2009, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by IluvJae
Well that's not going to happen, so i guess i'll have to stick with a belly. I'm not trying to cut, i'm trying to build strength which is why i lift hard. I'm just going to watch my calorie intake and watch the fat shed away that way.
I think you could up the cardio a bit.

Did some mad reps of tricep and lower abs yesterday, i feel damn sexy
Old 07-30-2009, 06:10 AM
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Jae, I don't think you're doing enough reps. Even if you are just trying to strength train, a few sets at 6 reps is not enough exercise mang. When I had a trainer he told me 10-12 reps was where it's at for building muscle... if you can do more than 12, then it's time to increase the weight. After you've done a few of those, sure, go for your max... but if you just do the straight up heavy shit, I don't think you'll see much progress.
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I do a lot of my exercise with 20 reps nowadays I'm tired of all that meat and no ripness
Old 07-30-2009, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NOPD
I think you could up the cardio a bit.

Did some mad reps of tricep and lower abs yesterday, i feel damn sexy
I think what i'm doing is fine, I just have to now watch my calorie intake and start doing ab excercises. I haven't been doing them unlike before I was. Check it out http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...postcount=1305

Originally Posted by white_n_slow
Jae, I don't think you're doing enough reps. Even if you are just trying to strength train, a few sets at 6 reps is not enough exercise mang. When I had a trainer he told me 10-12 reps was where it's at for building muscle... if you can do more than 12, then it's time to increase the weight. After you've done a few of those, sure, go for your max... but if you just do the straight up heavy shit, I don't think you'll see much progress.
The workout i'm doing is the Max-OT. Bert and Chanc can chip in on this. But basically you could summarize Max-OT like this:

1. Each workout should last approximately 30 to 40 minutes.
2. Train only 1 or 2 muscle groups per workout/day.
3. Do 6 to 9 total heavy sets per muscle group.
4. Do 4 to 6 reps per set.
5. Rest 2 to 3 minutes between sets. (STR)
6. Train each muscle group once every 5 to 7 days. (ITR)
7. Take a 1 week break from training every 8 to 10 weeks.


If I can do more then 6 reps in a set then the weight isn't heavy enough. That's the workout i'm doing and seen good results before. The higher reps, circuit training crap didn't work for me.



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