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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nicksellshondas
That's a good one. It depends, mostly on the customer's credit. If the customer has excellent (over 710) credit, they are about the same. If they have lower than 710, it's all about how much "bump" can be put into the rate.

As far as the salesman is concerned, it doesn't matter. Salesmen are usually paid on "front end" gross, which is basically selling price - invoice + incentives. All finance products are considered "back end" gross, and that's what the F&I managers are paid on.

Many people assume the dealer only makes money on financing or leasing if they "bump" the interest rate (that is, charge the customer a higher rate than the current "buy" rate). That's not the case. Even on subsidized loans or buy rates, there is a profit for the dealer.

One thing that is definitely NOT the best for the dealer, is paying cash. It boggles my mind when people come in and ask if they get a discount for paying cash. No, you don't. We're already making less money on you, that would be stupid.
Are there any prepayment penalties on leases?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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do you think this after you completely rip someone off on a car trade in??
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dweezel
Are there any prepayment penalties on leases?
No, every month our statement always shows a total-buyout which is the remainder of the monthly lease payments + pre-agreed upon buyout.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by XScarAudio
No, every month our statement always shows a total-buyout which is the remainder of the monthly lease payments + pre-agreed upon buyout.
What if you don't want the vehicle. For example, say I have a 36-month lease and after 12-months I decide to prepay the other two years. Can I do that?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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You could, but it would be a pretty bad decision. You'd be better trying to trade it in and use the newer car as a negotiating tool.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dweezel
Are there any prepayment penalties on leases?
Originally Posted by XScarAudio
No, every month our statement always shows a total-buyout which is the remainder of the monthly lease payments + pre-agreed upon buyout.
What he said is correct.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nicksellshondas
What he said is correct.
Is there room to negotiate on the final buyout price? Also, what part of the money factor can be negotiated?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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are the advertised invoice prices on edmonds.com actually correct?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dweezel
Is there room to negotiate on the final buyout price? Also, what part of the money factor can be negotiated?
For a lease, I don't worry about anything outside of the $ I want to pay monthly and what i want to put out of pocket. let the dealer figure out how to make it happen as long as you get those 2 numbers where you want them
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