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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...technologyNews

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. federal agents have been given new powers to seize travelers' laptops and other electronic devices at the border and hold them for unspecified periods the Washington Post reported on Friday.
Under recently disclosed Department of Homeland Security policies, such seizures may be carried out without suspicion of wrongdoing, the newspaper said, quoting policies issued on July 16 by two DHS agencies.
Agents are empowered to share the contents of seized computers with other agencies and private entities for data decryption and other reasons, the newspaper said.
DHS officials said the policies applied to anyone entering the country, including U.S. citizens, and were needed to prevent terrorism.
The measures have long been in place but were only disclosed in July, under pressure from civil liberties and business travel groups acting on reports that increasing numbers of international travelers had had their laptops, cellphones and other digital devices removed and examined.
The policies cover hard drives, flash drives, cell phones, iPods, pagers, beepers, and video and audio tapes -- as well as books, pamphlets and other written materials, the report said.
The policies require federal agents to take measures to protect business information and attorney-client privileged material. They stipulate that any copies of the data must be destroyed when a review is completed and no probable cause exists to keep the information.
(Reporting by Paul Eckert, editing by Alan Elsner)
How typical... a unilateral decision to combat a nebulously defined threat. :a:
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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wow... thats insane! how can they confiscate personal goods like that?!? What is happening to the world
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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i'm going to start flying in and out of canada ... i can drive almost 5 hours to detroit and catch a plane or drive 3 hours north and leave from canuck central and the border security there are super friendly
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:38 AM
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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i was thinking about how if i fly to pakistan i need to be carefull about what i have in my laptop (read porn) when i enter that country. Now i have to wonder if when coming back from pakistan the US agents won confiscate my latop
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rebeld
i'm going to start flying in and out of canada ... i can drive almost 5 hours to detroit and catch a plane or drive 3 hours north and leave from canuck central and the border security there are super friendly
And for thousands of media professionals who have no option but to fly, we now have to do so knowing that the tools of our trade are subject to confiscation at the will of the State.

I would not like to be the AP bureau chief for Kabul or Peshawar.
You know damn well that both Afghanistan and Pakistan will be on some sort of watch list.

If this is the "democracy" we're defending, what would losing it be like?

It's a rhetorical question, but one worth considering nonetheless.
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daves an anarchist :run:



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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rebeld
daves an anarchist :run:



:chuckles:

No, it's just that I don't believe that big government always means better government.

And the DHS has become the tip of the spear for what I'd argue is the most imperialist presidency we've ever tolerated.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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I didn't read it, but i blame California or Canada.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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That's setting people up who have P2P software installed or pirated movies and stuff. I bet they could use that against you in some sick sort of way
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