Run your car on water
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I read a long drawn out debate on a Toyota forum regarding all aspects of the chemistry and thermodynamics of this system and the final conclusion is that it simply wouldn't work. You can't get more energy from water (already fully oxidized) than what you put in. Even if you were to break water into hydrogen and oxygen, it would take more energy to produce browns gas from water than the energy that the browns gas would provide.
Some guy on there says he's going to try it and get back to us. That was about a month ago and we haven't heard from him since.
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There is only one way I can think of, which is currently in practice, of breaking water into hydrogen and oxygen for any viable source of energy and that is the use of nuclear power during off peak hours to split water. It still takes more energy to do it than energy it provides, but in the case of a nuclear reactor where you can't slow the reaction much, you might as well use the available energy for something during off peak energy use hours. That's about the only useful way to use this technology that I can think of.
Some guy on there says he's going to try it and get back to us. That was about a month ago and we haven't heard from him since.
Edit:
There is only one way I can think of, which is currently in practice, of breaking water into hydrogen and oxygen for any viable source of energy and that is the use of nuclear power during off peak hours to split water. It still takes more energy to do it than energy it provides, but in the case of a nuclear reactor where you can't slow the reaction much, you might as well use the available energy for something during off peak energy use hours. That's about the only useful way to use this technology that I can think of.
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Simply put...in order to make any noticeable change in power or mileage would require a system the size of a 16foot trailer in tow at all times and the trailer would negate any positive increases you would see.
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wasnt there a guy who converted his car to run on water? it only used gas to start? i saw this on a tv show. there is also the air powered car in france. and isnt honda already road testing a hydrogen car for a couple years in japan now?
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Indian automotive company Tata Motors (who have recently acquired Range Rover and Jaguar) are developing a car which runs on liquid air. This is in partnership with MDI.
The car is called a Nano. The petrol version of the car is $2,400 and the liquid air one would be slightly more.
Says it gives roughly 123miles to the gallon which would run about $3.
The car is called a Nano. The petrol version of the car is $2,400 and the liquid air one would be slightly more.
Says it gives roughly 123miles to the gallon which would run about $3.
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This guy I know "purchased" (???) the instructions on how to do this and told me about it and said not to tell anyone and that this project was "very confidential". I can't wait to say "I told you so" when he fails and has wasted who knows how much money!