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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ISP James
yeah how about the fact that our military is 100% voluntary



i dont think that republicans in general believe that they are entitled to anything as Americans. I think most of us believe that we do live in the greatest country in the world and that we have the opportunity for success IF WE WORK FOR IT.

This idea that everybody is entitled to the same shit, regardless of their output and initiative is pretty far from a republican/conservative ideal.
It isn't so much "regardless of their output and initiative" as it is...in regard to who they are. i.e. american. Your paraphrasing of what I said just shows that you have no concept of what I was talking about (this isn't meant to be offensive or to say that you're ignorant. it's the internet-people are easily misunderstood). This is one of the downsides to nationalism...

I don't agree with most people I meet because I'm a huge ****..i mean...i am skeptical of any political party.

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Of course it could be just another union job description too :rofl:
which would end in:

...there's always more time finish the job on saturday...
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life


which would end in:

...there's always more time finish the job on saturday...
...for time and a half pay
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
Have YOU worked in a union plant? It's not an 8-hour workday by any means.

I imagine the workday in China or India involves more actual work. i.e. the countries we are competing against.

Let's see these studies, and who conducted them.
Labor unions represent 12.5% of the US labor force. To use them as a gauge for how lazy the American Workforce is would be very presumptuous and ignorant.

However, comparing a "typical" workday for someone in China or India as someone in the US is apples to Oranges. US Labor laws are for more stringent, not to mention we are not as manufacturing oriented as either of those two countries.

As for figures comparing China/India/other developing 3rd/2nd world countries to the US, I don't have them. I can find evidence that shows the US in the top tier of hours worked and output in comparison to most other industrialized countries (primarily Europe), however a 15 second google search can yield you these stats and I shouldn't need to hold your hand to find something known to be pretty obvious.

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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RB
however a 15 second google search can yield you these stats and I shouldn't need to hold your hand to find something known to be pretty obvious.
Was this really necessary? Or did you not feel like your argument was compelling enough?
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
Was this really necessary? Or did you not feel like your argument was compelling enough?
About as necessary as your errant ranting and generalization of the American Workforce.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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Lolol.

good luck.

So China and India are both more manufacturing-oriented, and graduating more science and engineering students from their schools?

How are we to compete?

I know, let's become second-handers.

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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
Lolol.

good luck.

So China and India are both more manufacturing-oriented, and graduating more science and engineering students from their schools?

How are we to compete?

I know, let's become second-handers.
Oh wow, they're graduating more science and engineering students? Maybe that's because they represent 35% of the World population and collectively are are 8 times larger than the US? Or maybe because they are both two of the fastest growing countries on Earth? Who would have thought that!


I guess they don't teach common sense in Science or Engineering classes.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Actually, I believe the percentage is higher. I didn't word that correctly.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Fuck illegals.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
Actually, I believe the percentage is higher. I didn't word that correctly.
But fundamentally, doesn't that make sense that even their percentage would be higher as well? Those fortunate enough to go to college in a country such as China or India would obviously want to be in a field on the cutting edge, something which is the polar opposite of what these countries have been so deeply entrenched in for so many centuries (agriculture and now manufacturing). Those countries aren't known for extremely successful or HUGE managerial-heavy corporations like the US (hence a higher portion of business majors in the US).
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