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Old 04-03-2008, 03:50 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080403/..._early_release


By RAY HENRY, Associated Press Writer 27 minutes ago

PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Lawmakers from California to Kentucky are trying to save money with a drastic and potentially dangerous budget-cutting proposal: releasing tens of thousands of convicts from prison, including drug addicts, thieves and even violent criminals.
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Officials acknowledge that the idea carries risks, but they say they have no choice because of huge budget gaps brought on by the slumping economy.

"If we don't find a way to better manage the population at the state prison, we will be forced to spend money to expand the state's prison system — money we don't have," said Jeff Neal, a spokesman for Rhode Island Gov. Don Carcieri.

At least eight states are considering freeing inmates or sending some convicts to rehabilitation programs instead of prison, according to an Associated Press analysis of legislative proposals. If adopted, the early release programs could save an estimated $450 million in California and Kentucky alone.

A Rhode Island proposal would allow inmates to deduct up to 12 days from their sentence for every month they follow rules and work in prison. Even some violent offenders would be eligible but not those serving life sentences.

A plan in Mississippi would offer early parole for people convicted of selling marijuana or prescription drugs. New Jersey, South Carolina and Vermont are considering funneling drug-addicted offenders into treatment, which is cheaper than prison.

The prospect of financial savings offers little comfort to Tori-Lynn Heaton, a police officer in a suburb of Providence whose ex-husband went to prison for beating her. He has already finished his prison term, but would have been eligible for early release under the current proposal.

"You're talking about victim safety. You're talking about community member safety," she said. "You can't balance the budget on the backs of victims of crimes."

But prisons "are one of the most expensive parts of the criminal-justice system," said Alison Lawrence, who studies corrections policy for the National Conference of State Legislatures. "That's where they look to first to cut down some of those costs."

Rhode Island Corrections Director A.T. Wall was not sure how many prisoners could be freed early. The payoff for doing so may be relatively small: less than $1 million for the first fiscal year, although that figure would increase over time.

In California, where lawmakers have taken steps to cut a $16 billion budget deficit in half by summer, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger proposed saving $400 million by releasing more than 22,000 inmates who had less than 20 months remaining on their sentences. Violent and sex offenders would not be eligible.

Laying off prison guards and making it more difficult to send parole violators back to state prison would account for part of the savings.

Law enforcement officials and Republican lawmakers immediately criticized Schwarzenegger's proposal, which would apply to car thieves, forgers, drunken drivers and some drug dealers. Some would never serve prison time because the standard sentence for those crimes is 20 months or less.

"To open the prison door and release prisoners back into communities is merely placing a state burden onto local governments and will ultimately jeopardize safety in communities," said Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer, who could see 1,800 inmates released in his area.

In Kentucky, which faces a $1.3 billion deficit, lawmakers approved legislation Wednesday to grant early release to some prisoners. Initial estimates were that the plan could affect as many as 2,000 inmates and save nearly $50 million.

If the governor signs the bill, the exact number of prisoners would be determined by prison officials. Violent convicts and sexual offenders would be exempt.

Gov. Steve Beshear has said Kentucky must review its policies after the state's inmate population jumped 12 percent last year — the largest increase in the nation.

Kentucky spends more than $18,600 to house one inmate for a year, or roughly $51 a day. In California, each inmate costs an average of $46,104 to incarcerate.

The prison budget in Mississippi has nearly tripled since stricter sentencing laws took effect in 1994.

To curb spending, lawmakers have offered a bill to make about 7,000 drug offenders in prison eligible for parole. A second proposal would allow the parole board to release inmates convicted of selling marijuana and prescription drugs after serving just a quarter of their sentences. Currently, they must serve 85 percent of their terms before release.

Michigan is trying to speed up the parole process for about 3,500 inmates who were convicted of nonviolent, nonsexual offenses, or who are seriously ill.

Barbara Sampson, chairwoman of the Michigan Parole Board, said early release often makes sense, especially for low-risk offenders who get help rebuilding their lives.

"Getting that prisoner back to the community so that he can stay connected to his family, getting him back into the work force ... that's a positive thing," she said.

But not everyone is sold on the idea.

"Economics cannot be the engine that drives the train of public safety," said Terrence Jungel, executive director of the Michigan Sheriffs' Association. "Government has no greater responsibility than the protection of its citizens."

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Associated Press writers Don Thompson in Sacramento, Calif.; Roger Alford in Frankfort., Ky.; Ron Harrist in Jackson, Miss.; Wilson Ring in Montpelier, Vt.; Brad Haynes in Trenton, N.J.; and David Eggert in Lansing, Mich., contributed to this report.
Old 04-04-2008, 12:56 AM
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Brilliant. I say let them all loose. Then give everyone a gun. I mean ALL people... not just the criminals
Old 04-04-2008, 05:43 AM
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why can't they just kill the criminals that are serving life? a lethal injection is all it is, fairly cheap.
Old 04-04-2008, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NOPD
why can't they just kill the criminals that are serving life? a lethal injection is all it is, fairly cheap.
Because they have rights.
Old 04-04-2008, 05:46 AM
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I see good and bad points to this. I think decriminalizing marijuana, then releasing those convicted for that first would be a better step. Then, make it legal and tax it.

Mind you, I have not smoked in 5+ years and STILL feel this would be beneficial.
Old 04-04-2008, 06:18 AM
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Hear me out. I say if anything release the older inmates to free up room for the younger, more fucked up and violent generation. The average cost to keep someone locked up for one year is 35-40k per person. The average for an inmate over 60 years old is around 60k with medical needs, special requests, and anything else related to decreasing physicalities.

So there is a 70 yr old in there for bank robbery where nobody was injured. Understandibly, he did his crime and did the time but make room for the younger knuckleheads.

in California alone, the recidivism rate is 75%. Meaning that 3 of evey four convicts return within 4 months. Talk about a percentage.
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Good points in there. You should become a politician!
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Originally Posted by XScarAudio
Good points in there. You should become a politician!
hahhahahahhaha, he would be under so much scrutiny it would be ludicrous. Sex with prostitutes and 18 y/o all day.
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^ Id fit right in.
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Originally Posted by NOPD
hahhahahahhaha, he would be under so much scrutiny it would be ludicrous. Sex with prostitutes and 18 y/o all day.
As long as he doesn't get married, doesn't pay for it, doesn't do it with guys, and doesn't do it in public bathrooms, he should be fine.



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