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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Epoch
$600 to even 3K wont help prevent people from suffering. I dunno about you, but $600 doesn't go far in this world. It covers rent for 1 month, and I'm renting just a room. If I was supporting 2 kid on my own, $1200 wouldn't even cover a month's worth of a mortgage where I live, and pray tell, how would $1200 in June help anything if I had a family to support?

This money isn't really to help us. It's to bribe us into thinking our government is trying to react.
It's a $150 Billion dollar package. To any one person it wont change a life, but spread over the millions of Americans it's going to, it will help the economy.

Are you just trying to find a reason to hate this? I mean, your logic seems to be bouncing around to whatever issue you think makes this a bad plan, but for the most part you're just wrong :dunno:
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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You're looking at this all wrong. It's not supposed to help families, it's supposed to help the economy.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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The reason I "hate" this is because the money doesn't actually exist, and in the long term sense of what's best for the market, borrowing/printing 150 billion dollars is not smart. It doesn't actually help the average person, it devalues our current currency in the world market, we are not poised to take advantage of the potential devalued dollar... the actual benefit does not really exist.

For the record: If we actually had the cash in hand, and could do it without borrowing or printing the money, I'd be totally for it, but as it stands, we don't even know where the money is coming from.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
You're looking at this all wrong. It's not supposed to help families, it's supposed to help the economy.
I'm convinced it's a poor short term fix that does not cover it's own costs in the long term. Also, I also stated why it's a poor macroeconomic decision first, then RB brought up the 10's of thousands of suffering people, so that's why I started that retort. In the end it's poor economics IMO.

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Epoch
Should have been more crafty with your 401k h:
trust me, i am.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by reechy
trust me, i am.
You're in sales/marketing though, right? That would explain why even crafty 401k use wont take you under 75K/yr
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Epoch
The reason I "hate" this is because the money doesn't actually exist, and in the long term sense of what's best for the market, borrowing/printing 150 billion dollars is not smart. It doesn't actually help the average person, it devalues our current currency in the world market, we are not poised to take advantage of the potential devalued dollar... the actual benefit does not really exist.

For the record: If we actually had the cash in hand, and could do it without borrowing or printing the money, I'd be totally for it, but as it stands, we don't even know where the money is coming from.
Nobody ever has $150 Billion "cash in hand". Part of the money is used from already collected taxes, but printing more money is not even an option and thus won't have any effect on the devaluation of the dollar. The FED doesn't just print more money. Doesn't happen. End of story.

Borrowing $150B is far more smart than doing nothing at all.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Epoch
I'm convinced it's a poor short term fix that does not cover it's own costs in the long term. Also, I also stated why it's a poor macroeconomic decision first, then RB brought up the 10's of thousands of suffering people, so that's why I started that retort. In the end it's poor economics IMO.
The relief from the struggle doesn't come from the refunds themselves, it comes from the cumulative effects the refunds give to the economy.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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so who's buying 26" spinners!!!?!
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